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Gracchus
2021-02-13 17:57:56 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Pelle Svanslös
2021-02-13 18:11:45 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
I have a hunch Osaka will squeak through.
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StephenJ
2021-02-14 02:37:17 UTC
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Good call. Down two match points and apparently beaten, Osaka squeaked through. She is a tough customer late in a third set.
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
I have a hunch Osaka will squeak through.
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Gracchus
2021-02-14 02:51:03 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
I have a hunch Osaka will squeak through.
Good call. Down two match points and apparently beaten, Osaka squeaked through. She is a tough customer late in a third set.
Yes, she raised her level impressively and followed through when she saw Muguruza getting shaky. Similar to what happened with Errani vs. Hsieh. Speaking of whom, it's a pleasant surprise to see her make the quarters for the first time at age 35.
Whisper
2021-02-13 22:57:53 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Mugs has won 2 slams beating Serena & Venus in the finals, so she's used
to playing black power players.
jdeluise
2021-02-14 07:09:12 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players
who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Mugs has won 2 slams beating Serena & Venus in the finals, so she's
used to playing black power players.
Is Osaka thought of as a "Black Power" player now? ;)
The Iceberg
2021-02-15 17:30:22 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players
who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Mugs has won 2 slams beating Serena & Venus in the finals, so she's
used to playing black power players.
Is Osaka thought of as a "Black Power" player now? ;)
don't you know, black power isn't needed anymore as oBiden has already solved all racism in the entire USA!!
StephenJ
2021-02-14 02:38:24 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
Whisper
2021-02-14 05:48:30 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.

I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
Gracchus
2021-02-14 06:02:09 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
She won't get that far. Hsieh will beat her in the quarters!

Well, probably not. :) Squeaky has a 3-1 edge against her. However, all but one of those matches were three-setters. You never know. Hsieh was 0-3 against "rat-faced" Errani before beating her this week. And rats are tougher than mice, ergo...
Whisper
2021-02-14 06:08:56 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
She won't get that far. Hsieh will beat her in the quarters!
Well, probably not. :) Squeaky has a 3-1 edge against her. However, all but one of those matches were three-setters. You never know. Hsieh was 0-3 against "rat-faced" Errani before beating her this week. And rats are tougher than mice, ergo...
I like Hsieh too. Osaki beat her here when she won AO in 2019 so knows
what to expect & should get her again with that experience. I really
don't want to see Barty win (fake niceness) and Osaka is best equipped
to put her out.
bob
2021-02-22 00:42:42 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
She won't get that far. Hsieh will beat her in the quarters!
Well, probably not. :) Squeaky has a 3-1 edge against her. However, all but one of those matches were three-setters. You never know. Hsieh was 0-3 against "rat-faced" Errani before beating her this week. And rats are tougher than mice, ergo...
this mouse is one tough rodent. definitely the best player on tour if
she's on her game. of course she's yet to win a Wim or FO, and may be
a 1 surface player.

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Pelle Svanslös
2021-02-22 11:12:26 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
She won't get that far. Hsieh will beat her in the quarters!
Well, probably not. :) Squeaky has a 3-1 edge against her. However, all but one of those matches were three-setters. You never know. Hsieh was 0-3 against "rat-faced" Errani before beating her this week. And rats are tougher than mice, ergo...
this mouse is one tough rodent.
Tougher than all the Hemingway readers put together.
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StephenJ
2021-02-15 16:39:10 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
Osaka is IMO the clear favorite to win the title now.
Whisper
2021-02-15 21:15:41 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
Osaka is IMO the clear favorite to win the title now.
Yes, but still it's bo3 so you never know. If Barty wins I'll vomit.
Gracchus
2021-02-15 21:40:56 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
Osaka is IMO the clear favorite to win the title now.
Yes, but still it's bo3 so you never know. If Barty wins I'll vomit.
Why do you hate Barty so much? There are others who deserve it so much more.
Whisper
2021-02-16 15:16:29 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
Osaka is IMO the clear favorite to win the title now.
Yes, but still it's bo3 so you never know. If Barty wins I'll vomit.
Why do you hate Barty so much? There are others who deserve it so much more.
Dunno. The niceness factor is vomit inducing for me, especially when
it's overdone. I told my wife I've rooted against Barty in every match
she's ever played. She was appalled. I don't see why I should root for
Barty & Hewitt types just because they're Australians?

Barty can earn my respect by getting stuck in & winning a couple more
slams and getting a bit nastier. I won't hold my breath. She has a
cupcake draw & if she can't make final here she's a joke.
Gracchus
2021-02-16 00:18:43 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
Tennis is funny that way, in that you can have two champ-level players who have never played.
And given the result we can't say who has the upper hand, as close to a
draw as you can get in tennis.
I'm happy Osaka won as she's the most likely to beat Barty.
Osaka is IMO the clear favorite to win the title now.
Looks that way. She quickly took advantage when Muguruza faltered and wouldn't give her an inch of breathing room. I expect she'll beat Hsieh in straight sets this time (unfortunately) because Squeaky is a more disciplined player than a couple of years ago. And even though Serena has beaten her in the last couple small events, I think an AO meeting would go much like the USO...minus the histrionics.
bob
2021-02-22 00:44:18 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol

bob
Gracchus
2021-02-22 00:48:22 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
She should just stick to tennis, nod her head a lot, and smile at the press conferences. Fortunately for her she's a world-class athlete and doesn't have to do a doctoral dissertation.
Whisper
2021-02-22 06:03:03 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
She should just stick to tennis, nod her head a lot, and smile at the press conferences. Fortunately for her she's a world-class athlete and doesn't have to do a doctoral dissertation.
She gets more than $1 million every week from endorsements and
apparently is considered an influential global superstar (news to me).
Tough to be grounded in that kind of environment.

My wife doesn't like her because she talks like a 13 yr old.
bob
2021-02-22 19:12:52 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
She should just stick to tennis, nod her head a lot, and smile at the press conferences. Fortunately for her she's a world-class athlete and doesn't have to do a doctoral dissertation.
She gets more than $1 million every week from endorsements and
apparently is considered an influential global superstar (news to me).
Tough to be grounded in that kind of environment.
My wife doesn't like her because she talks like a 13 yr old.
she's incredibly dumb. but a great player. and because she's half
japanese, gets all the $ that the win starved japanese have to give
her.

bob
bob
2021-02-22 19:10:30 UTC
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:48:22 -0800 (PST), Gracchus
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
She should just stick to tennis, nod her head a lot, and smile at the press conferences. Fortunately for her she's a world-class athlete and doesn't have to do a doctoral dissertation.
doctoral, no. how bout 3rd grade?

bob
jdeluise
2021-02-22 00:53:53 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:57:56 -0800 (PST), Gracchus
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players
who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
Not to mention the cringy "How do you say your name? Oh, you say it
Jenny? Congratulations Jennifer!!!"
Whisper
2021-02-22 06:09:46 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:57:56 -0800 (PST), Gracchus
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players
who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
Not to mention the cringy "How do you say your name? Oh, you say it
Jenny? Congratulations Jennifer!!!"
You don't have to get their name right until they win a slam.
Gracchus
2021-02-22 06:11:53 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:57:56 -0800 (PST), Gracchus
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players
who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
Not to mention the cringy "How do you say your name? Oh, you say it
Jenny? Congratulations Jennifer!!!"
You don't have to get their name right until they win a slam.
At least she didn't say "the white bitch."
Whisper
2021-02-22 06:37:51 UTC
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players
who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
Not to mention the cringy "How do you say your name? Oh, you say it
Jenny? Congratulations Jennifer!!!"
You don't have to get their name right until they win a slam.
At least she didn't say "the white bitch."
That was classic from Naomi. All kinds of theories abound, like she's a
bitch, intentionally funny, aspergers, didn't hear her etc

I think maybe aspergers?
Gracchus
2021-02-22 19:37:55 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 09:57:56 -0800 (PST), Gracchus
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Looks like they've never faced each other before. Both tall players
who can wallop the ball. This has potential for a really good match.
i see in mousy's interview she's still complaining about "barriers
that need broke." lol
Not to mention the cringy "How do you say your name? Oh, you say it
Jenny? Congratulations Jennifer!!!"
You don't have to get their name right until they win a slam.
At least she didn't say "the white bitch."
the words "white bitch" don't fit in the narrative IMO. the narrative
is, "there are barriers that still need to be broken." she's been
warned by her handlers to not speak outside of that 1 sentence.
Agreed, it reeks of slick PR.
like in breaking bad when the investigator tells the meth head,
"here's the story: when i woke up she was dead, i don't know anything
else."
:)

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