Iga Swiatek caught using doping!! Hahah!!!

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Hello!

Hot off the press: Iga Swiatek caught using *DOPING*!

Hahahahaa!

She claims that she got the forbidden substance
because it was somehow contained in her perfectly
legal melatonin pills that help her sleep better.

Not a surprise to me at all. I have known for some
time that all the successful athletes are "juiced"
and our beloved tennis players are no exception
to this rule. Hahah!

Iga got a month's ban *now* even though her tests
were taken already in August. She could have missed
US Open, but those in power (ITF/WTA) saved her and
allowed her to play for the rest of the season.

Now during December 2024 she can enjoy her rest and
the month long ban will be conveniently over when
the Aussie Open begins in January 2025. Well done!

br,
KK

[Sawfish]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
Hello!
Hot off the press: Iga Swiatek caught using *DOPING*!
Hahahahaa!
She claims that she got the forbidden substance
because it was somehow contained in her perfectly
legal melatonin pills that help her sleep better.
Not a surprise to me at all. I have known for some
time that all the successful athletes are "juiced"
and our beloved tennis players are no exception
to this rule. Hahah!
Iga got a month's ban *now* even though her tests
were taken already in August. She could have missed
US Open, but those in power (ITF/WTA) saved her and
allowed her to play for the rest of the season.
Now during December 2024 she can enjoy her rest and
the month long ban will be conveniently over when
the Aussie Open begins in January 2025. Well done!
br,
KK

To me, it seems like maybe the most realistic course is to simply make
the policy remain silent on enhancement substances. Let it go for a
while, long enough to see what happens, and if it seems like a poor
idea, just reverse the policy.

It's kinda like the state of Oregon did with hard drugs...

[PeteWasLucky]

Hello!Hot off the press: Iga Swiatek caught using *DOPING*!Hahahahaa!She claims that she got the forbidden substancebecause it was somehow contained in her perfectlylegal melatonin pills that help her sleep better.Not a surprise to me at all. I have known for sometime that all the successful athletes are "juiced"and our beloved tennis players are no exceptionto this rule. Hahah!Iga got a month's ban *now* even though her testswere taken already in August. She could have missedUS Open, but those in power (ITF/WTA) saved her andallowed her to play for the rest of the season.Now during December 2024 she can enjoy her rest andthe month long ban will be conveniently over whenthe Aussie Open begins in January 2025. Well done!br,KK

She concluded that the culprit was her melatonin, which Swiatek has long used, she said, because with "all my traveling, jet lag and work-related stress mean that sometimes without it, I couldn’t fall asleep." She provided both an opened and unopened containers of the melatonin to the ITIA, which had them analyzed and found the contamination consistent with the trace amounts of trimetazidine detected in Swiatek's urine sample. Her provisional suspension was lifted and she was able to continue competing at the WTA's year-end finals, per the ITIA decision.

[TT]

Hello!Hot off the press: Iga Swiatek caught using *DOPING*!Hahahahaa!She claims that she got the forbidden substancebecause it was somehow contained in her perfectlylegal melatonin pills that help her sleep better.Not a surprise to me at all. I have known for sometime that all the successful athletes are "juiced"and our beloved tennis players are no exceptionto this rule. Hahah!Iga got a month's ban *now* even though her testswere taken already in August. She could have missedUS Open, but those in power (ITF/WTA) saved her andallowed her to play for the rest of the season.Now during December 2024 she can enjoy her rest andthe month long ban will be conveniently over whenthe Aussie Open begins in January 2025. Well done!br,KK

She concluded that the culprit was her melatonin, which Swiatek has long used, she said, because with "all my traveling, jet lag and work-related stress mean that sometimes without it, I couldn’t fall asleep." She provided both an opened and unopened containers of the melatonin to the ITIA, which had them analyzed and found the contamination consistent with the trace amounts of trimetazidine detected in Swiatek's urine sample. Her provisional suspension was lifted and she was able to continue competing at the WTA's year-end finals, per the ITIA decision.

Yeah, contaminated sleeping pills for sure...

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by TT
Yeah, contaminated sleeping pills for sure...

Hahahaa! :-)

Right. It is a totally ridiculous story. But we
have to understand that ITF, ATP and WTA needed
*something* to cover up the truth about top level
athletes.

2024 will be remembered not only for great tennis
matches, but also for knowing that both mens' and
womens' #1 got caught using doping: Jannik Sinner
and Iga Swiatek.


ITF, ATP and WTA organizations exist to make profit.

It is about running a profitable business. They cannot
simply afford to have their number one heroes to
fall down. In this money-making game the sponsors also
play a *huge* part. The spectators worship and idolize
their heroes, wanting to buy the gear they use and
so on.

A while ago I read an article saying that Jannik
Sinner has signed a 10-yead contract with Nike.

If I remember right, Sinner will make 159 million USD
for endorsing Nike. It is mind-boggling!

Getting caught using doping is not to the liking
of sponsors, so cover-up stories are needed. The
stories, of course, are completely hilarious and
nobody should believe in them.

Note to ITF, ATP, WTA: You can fool the general
public, but the enlightened ones can easily see
through your ridiculous lies.

br,
KK

[jdeluise]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by TT
Yeah, contaminated sleeping pills for sure...

Hahahaa! :-)
Right. It is a totally ridiculous story. But we
have to understand that ITF, ATP and WTA needed
*something* to cover up the truth about top level
athletes.
2024 will be remembered not only for great tennis
matches, but also for knowing that both mens' and
womens' #1 got caught using doping: Jannik Sinner
and Iga Swiatek.
ITF, ATP and WTA organizations exist to make profit.
It is about running a profitable business. They cannot
simply afford to have their number one heroes to
fall down. In this money-making game the sponsors also
play a *huge* part. The spectators worship and idolize
their heroes, wanting to buy the gear they use and
so on.
A while ago I read an article saying that Jannik
Sinner has signed a 10-yead contract with Nike.
If I remember right, Sinner will make 159 million USD
for endorsing Nike. It is mind-boggling!
Getting caught using doping is not to the liking
of sponsors, so cover-up stories are needed. The
stories, of course, are completely hilarious and
nobody should believe in them.
Note to ITF, ATP, WTA: You can fool the general
public, but the enlightened ones can easily see
through your ridiculous lies.
br,
KK

But if it's such a conspiracy why do they release the test results
in the first place?

[PeteWasLucky]

Yes, I just posted this before seeing your post.

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by jdeluise
But if it's such a conspiracy why do they release the test results
in the first place?

Those doing testing include a few people who honestly
want to "burn" dopers. Some of the testing labs
have been bribed to stay quiet about positive
doping result, yes, but not all of them.

br,
KK

[PeteWasLucky]

Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by PeteWasLucky
Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?

I just replied to this question, but to re-iterate: Some
doping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests to
find out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stay
quiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.

br,
KK

[jdeluise]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by PeteWasLucky
Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?

I just replied to this question, but to re-iterate: Some
doping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests to
find out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stay
quiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.

OK Courtsie, but where's the evidence?

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by jdeluise

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by PeteWasLucky
Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering it?

I just replied to this question, but to re-iterate: Some
doping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests to
find out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stay
quiet in cases where positive doping test results are achieved.

OK Courtsie, but where's the evidence?

Hahahahaa! Let me tell you about some serious
evidence!

Both men's #1 and women's #1 were caught using doping
during 2024. Both of them offered quite ridiculous
explanations for getting burned. ATP, WTA and ITF let
them off the hook because their "stars" have to have
perfectly clean public image. It would be bad for their
business if it turned out that all their heroes are
juiced.

This policy is nothing new. Andre Agassi played many,
many matches under the influence of methamphetamine.
When caught, the public was told that Agassi had used meth
only once and he got caught right away. It takes serious
stupidity to buy claims like that.

Like Sinner and Swiatek, Agassi was a top-class tennis
hero so those in power protected him as well as they
could. In addition to ATP and ITF, megabrand Nike was
also involved. Those Agassi clothes and shoes sold
like crazy so damage to Agassi's reputation had to be
minimized. Being exposed as a doper is bad for business
since many people believe that atheles should be clean.

Lesser players like Mikael Ymer are expendable. That's
why the Swede got a ban that lasts for 18 months - just
for missing three doping tests!

Have you ever followed Tour De France? Do you suppose
that the top cyclists can complete the Tour while being
clean? If you said "Yes", then think again.

br,
KK

[jdeluise]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by jdeluise

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by PeteWasLucky
Why would they cover it up if they are the ones uncovering
it?

I just replied to this question, but to re-iterate: Some
doping testing labs are honest and they do honest tests to
find out dopers. Some testing labs have been bribed to stay
quiet in cases where positive doping test results are
achieved.

OK Courtsie, but where's the evidence?

Hahahahaa! Let me tell you about some serious
evidence!
Both men's #1 and women's #1 were caught using doping
during 2024. Both of them offered quite ridiculous
explanations for getting burned. ATP, WTA and ITF let
them off the hook because their "stars" have to have
perfectly clean public image. It would be bad for their
business if it turned out that all their heroes are
juiced.
This policy is nothing new. Andre Agassi played many,
many matches under the influence of methamphetamine.
When caught, the public was told that Agassi had used meth
only once and he got caught right away. It takes serious
stupidity to buy claims like that.
Like Sinner and Swiatek, Agassi was a top-class tennis
hero so those in power protected him as well as they
could. In addition to ATP and ITF, megabrand Nike was
also involved. Those Agassi clothes and shoes sold
like crazy so damage to Agassi's reputation had to be
minimized. Being exposed as a doper is bad for business
since many people believe that atheles should be clean.
Lesser players like Mikael Ymer are expendable. That's
why the Swede got a ban that lasts for 18 months - just
for missing three doping tests!
Have you ever followed Tour De France? Do you suppose
that the top cyclists can complete the Tour while being
clean? If you said "Yes", then think again.
br,
KK

So you got 'nuffin but strawmen and smokescreens. As expected.
*rolls eyes*

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by jdeluise
So you got 'nuffin but strawmen and smokescreens. As expected.
*rolls eyes*

Some people like to believe in fairy tales, even as adults.

Top level athletes being clean is one of those fairy tales
that some childish adults like to believe in.

br,
KK

[jdeluise]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by jdeluise
So you got 'nuffin but strawmen and smokescreens. As expected.
*rolls eyes*

Some people like to believe in fairy tales, even as adults.
Top level athletes being clean is one of those fairy tales
that some childish adults like to believe in.
br,
KK

Again this is just a strawman. The topic is not whether top
athletes dope (I think many do, probably not all), it's whether
there is a vast conspiracy to HIDE complicity with these athletes
by the ITIA/ITF. I asked you why would the ITIA even bring up the
positive drug test and present it to a tribunal if they were
complicit from the beginning. You have failed to address that
besides creating your own unfounded fairy tales about bribery.

[Sawfish]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

So you got 'nuffin but strawmen and smokescreens.  As expected.
*rolls eyes*

Some people like to believe in fairy tales, even as adults.
Top level athletes being clean is one of those fairy tales
that some childish adults like to believe in.
br,
KK

Again this is just a strawman.  The topic is not whether top athletes
dope (I think many do, probably not all), it's whether there is a vast
conspiracy to HIDE complicity with these athletes by the ITIA/ITF.  I
asked you why would the ITIA even bring up the positive drug test and
present it to a tribunal if they were complicit from the beginning.  You
have failed to address that besides creating your own unfounded fairy
tales about bribery.

One of the problems people have that makes them susceptible to
conspiracy theories is that they apparently do not distinguish between
what is *possible* and what is *likely*. To them, the possible is just
as apt to happen as the likely.
--
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"To the average American or Englishman the very name of anarchy causes a
shudder, because it invariably conjures up a picture of a land
terrorized by low-browed assassins with matted beards, carrying bombs in
one hand and mugs of beer in the other. But as a matter of fact, there
is no reason whatever to believe that, if all laws were abolished
tomorrow, such swine would survive the day."

--H. L. Mencken
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by jdeluise
Again this is just a strawman. The topic is not whether top
athletes dope (I think many do, probably not all), it's whether
there is a vast conspiracy to HIDE complicity with these athletes
by the ITIA/ITF. I asked you why would the ITIA even bring up the
positive drug test and present it to a tribunal if they were
complicit from the beginning. You have failed to address that
besides creating your own unfounded fairy tales about bribery.

I get it now. I guess ITIA has some honest workers among
the traitors.

br,
KK

[PeteWasLucky]

Some tests are while others aren't, I see :).
And this took your highly intellect brain like five seconds while
sitting on the toilet to fix the holes in your previous story
:)

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by PeteWasLucky
Some tests are while others aren't, I see :).
And this took your highly intellect brain like five seconds while
sitting on the toilet to fix the holes in your previous story
:)

There are absolutely no holes in my story. Like I said,
some testing labs have people working in them that truly
want to catch doping users. Sinner and Swiatek got burned
precisely because the labs in question were honest. The
crooks are ATP, WTA and ITF. They love to spread their fairy
tales about their athletes being clean.

Not long ago, someone from ATP circles came out with his
story: Roughly 50% of Top 100 men tennis players have
ADHD diagnosis. This means they are free to use amphetamine
based "medication" to treat their ADHD. This is jus one
form of doping that our heroes use.

As a adults, we should no longer believe in fairy tales.

br,
KK

[*skriptis]

Yeah compare

https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/tandon-a-closer-look-at-serena-williams-therapeutic-use-exemptions


To

https://www.vox.com/2016/3/9/11187168/sharapova-meldonium-doping-explainer



Both have used substances, then at one point Sharapova's doping became illegal, she or her team failed to update and she got caught, lol.







Serena article:


In 2016, Williams was revealed to have received several Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) from the ITF. These were made public when Russian hackers broke into the World Anti-doping Agency (WADA) database and released confidential data on 29 athletes, including TUEs for Williams and other tennis players including Venus Williams, Rafael Nadal and Petra Kvitova.

There is no suggestion that Williams has broken any rules. Within specific requirements, WADA allows athletes to use otherwise banned substances for medical purposes.

But the TUEs Williams was granted between 2014 and 2015 could indicate a need to re-examine the system, according to a leading anti-doping expert, though more information is required to assess whether any errors occurred during the process.





Now this is absurd.

I like Nadal but with proper anti-doping rules he probably would not have won 14 FOs.

These top athletes destroy and waste their bodies to win titles, become stars, and then tennis officials allow them to dope, to recover better and sooner so that tennis could benefit from having huge stars. Logic is there.


But it's a fair point to say if some are allowed, then everyone should be allowed to do it, no?



I'd say if Nadal doped legally and everyone else was allowed the same, he still wins 14 FOs.

But without doping and ability to recover better and sooner, in a fully clean sport, he likely doesn't win 14 FOs?

He'd still be better than everyone mostly but would not be able to do it, purely physically.

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

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Yeah compare
https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/tandon-a-closer-look-at-serena-williams-therapeutic-use-exemptions
To
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/9/11187168/sharapova-meldonium-doping-explainer
Both have used substances, then at one point Sharapova's doping became illegal, she or her team failed to update and she got caught, lol.
In 2016, Williams was revealed to have received several Therapeutic Use Exemptions (TUEs) from the ITF. These were made public when Russian hackers broke into the World Anti-doping Agency (WADA) database and released confidential data on 29 athletes, including TUEs for Williams and other tennis players including Venus Williams, Rafael Nadal and Petra Kvitova.
There is no suggestion that Williams has broken any rules. Within specific requirements, WADA allows athletes to use otherwise banned substances for medical purposes.
But the TUEs Williams was granted between 2014 and 2015 could indicate a need to re-examine the system, according to a leading anti-doping expert, though more information is required to assess whether any errors occurred during the process.
Now this is absurd.
I like Nadal but with proper anti-doping rules he probably would not have won 14 FOs.
These top athletes destroy and waste their bodies to win titles, become stars, and then tennis officials allow them to dope, to recover better and sooner so that tennis could benefit from having huge stars. Logic is there.
But it's a fair point to say if some are allowed, then everyone should be allowed to do it, no?
I'd say if Nadal doped legally and everyone else was allowed the same, he still wins 14 FOs.
But without doping and ability to recover better and sooner, in a fully clean sport, he likely doesn't win 14 FOs?
He'd still be better than everyone mostly but would not be able to do it, purely physically.

https://7news.com.au/sport/tennis/dozens-of-top-tennis-players-embroiled-in-doping-scandal-as-shock-ban-opens-can-of-worms-c-9025717

Hahahah!

br,
KK