Kids were stabbed in the UK

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Hello!

I read that a 17 year old man stabbed kids
in the UK. Three of the victims are already
dead.

Does anyone know whether the killer is a
cultural enricher? Finnish media tries to
hide his identity... Name, photo, anyone?

br,
KK

[TT]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
Hello!
I read that a 17 year old man stabbed kids
in the UK. Three of the victims are already
dead.
Does anyone know whether the killer is a
cultural enricher? Finnish media tries to
hide his identity... Name, photo, anyone?
br,
KK

There has been name Ali Al-Shakati circulating in social media.
BUT the police says that...

Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and he
remains in police custody.

A name has been shared on social media in connection with the suspect in
the incident in Southport. This name is incorrect and we would urge
people not to speculate on details of the incident while the
investigation is ongoing.

This incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and we
are not looking for anyone else in connection with it.

https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/update-on-major-incident-in-southport/

...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT have
immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely another
immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings always are.

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by TT
[...]
...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT have
immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely another
immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings always are.

Okay, thanks for the info. I hope that the real name will soon be
published somewhere.

br,
KK

[TT]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by TT
[...]
...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT have
immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely another
immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings always are.

Okay, thanks for the info. I hope that the real name will soon be
published somewhere.
br,
KK

Unlikely in Finnish media, especially in Yle...

Puopolo interviewed recently on his youtube channel an Yle employee who
told about mandatory DEI seminars, safe space rules (for example you
can't assume someone's gender) etc.

Today there was another guest, former employee of Yle (Finnish
broadcasting company, paid by taxes):

...He says that one can't invite certain guests to their shows if
guest's "values" are viewed as 'non-conforming'. They can't even MENTION
name of such a person... he names for example Andrew Tate. So it's not
allowed to mention Tate's name in Yle.

So yes, that's not free press we have here in Finland. The commercial
media pretty much runs with leftist ideology, as all "journalists" are
far left-green axis. (and if they're not they probably can't show it
cause of peer pressure)

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by TT
So yes, that's not free press we have here in Finland. The commercial
media pretty much runs with leftist ideology, as all "journalists" are
far left-green axis. (and if they're not they probably can't show it
cause of peer pressure)

All the discussion forums in Finland are also heavily censored. The
so-called "wrong opinions" are quickly removed from them.

I did not expect Finnish media to ever publish the name of this
mass murderer, but the name will eventually pop up in the social
media.

If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
thread. Thanks.

br,
KK

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
thread. Thanks.

I do not claim that the following page contains the truth, but
if you follow this link, you can find some *discussion* in Swedish:

https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p61

br,
KK

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
thread. Thanks.

I do not claim that the following page contains the truth, but
https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p61

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/30/southport-attack-live-children-injured/

The following is a direct quote from the Telegraph page:

=====begin quote==========================================
Violent clashes have broken out between protesters and
police after a large crowd gathered outside a mosque
in Southport.

Footage of the protest posted on social media showed a
police van set on fire and crowds hurling bottles
and bricks at police hurdled together with riot shields.

It comes as tensions run high in the town following
yesterday’s stabbing attack, in which three children
were killed while attending a Taylor Swift themed yoga
and dance workshop in Southport on Monday lunchtime.

Police riot vans and officers are standing guard
outside the mosque, amid chants of “No surrender!”
and “English till I die!” from sections of the crowd.

Yvette Cooper, the home secretary, earlier warned
against using the killing of three schoolgirls to
“stir up division” after the Southport stabbings. A
police helicopter has been heard overhead and riot
police have reportedly been deployed.

Speaking in the House of Commons on Tuesday evening, she
told MPs: “False information has already been extensively
shared in the last 24 hours. Those who do this for their
own purposes risk undermining a crucial criminal
investigation and I ask everyone to show some respect
for the community in Southport and for families who are
grieving and in trauma.
=====end quote==========================================

Could it be true that the mass murderer is a fucking
ÄHLÄMI whose parents originally came to UK from Rwanda?

Note that I am not claiming anything, just asking an
honest question.

br,
KK

[jdeluise]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
thread. Thanks.

I do not claim that the following page contains the truth, but
if you follow this link, you can find some *discussion* in
https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p61

It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name
because he's underage, but still you demand a name. Otherwise, in
your mind, it's a coverup. They *do* say the suspect was born in
Wales, so obviously he's not an immigrant...

What if his name is "Archibald Higgenbottoms", all would be OK in
your mind?

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by jdeluise
It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name
because he's underage, but still you demand a name. Otherwise, in
your mind, it's a coverup. They *do* say the suspect was born in
Wales, so obviously he's not an immigrant...

Fuck off, it's an attempted cover-up. When James Bulger was
murdered in 1993, the two 11-year-old monsters were outed
right away:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger

So "being underage" is a just poor excuse to fool stupid people.

Post by jdeluise
What if his name is "Archibald Higgenbottoms", all would be OK in
your mind?

I don't give a fuck about his name, this sicko must be outed
no matter what the leftist scum says. As of now, I think my
picture of this matter is getting clearer all the time. My
initial suspicions just could be spot-on!

This horrifying crime cannot be swept away like it is
just normal everyday business... No way!

br,
KK

[The Iceberg]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by jdeluise
It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name
because he's underage, but still you demand a name. Otherwise, in
your mind, it's a coverup. They *do* say the suspect was born in
Wales, so obviously he's not an immigrant...

Fuck off, it's an attempted cover-up. When James Bulger was
murdered in 1993, the two 11-year-old monsters were outed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger
So "being underage" is a just poor excuse to fool stupid people.

Post by jdeluise
What if his name is "Archibald Higgenbottoms", all would be OK in
your mind?

I don't give a fuck about his name, this sicko must be outed
no matter what the leftist scum says. As of now, I think my
picture of this matter is getting clearer all the time. My
initial suspicions just could be spot-on!
This horrifying crime cannot be swept away like it is
just normal everyday business... No way!

this is exactly what jdeluise and his insane leftist nutjob pals want,
they want it to be censored or totally ignored cos it's undoubtedly done
by an immigrant. It's just disgustingly evil behaviour and all simply to
protect their belovedly dumb leftist idea of fully open borders and how
every single foreigner is absolutely lovely or has been oppressed
somehow. Of course they never consider the social disaster mass
immigration brings or the nation draining it does etc.

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
I don't give a fuck about his name, this sicko must be outed
no matter what the leftist scum says. As of now, I think my
picture of this matter is getting clearer all the time. My
initial suspicions just could be spot-on!
This horrifying crime cannot be swept away like it is
just normal everyday business... No way!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29578114/suspect-southport-knife-horror-karate-cardiff/

The Sun writes:

"Neighbours spoke of their shock, describing the parents -
a Christian “hard-working father and stay-at-home mother” -
as “very normal”.

What about Alex the son? Was he a Christian? Somehow
I doubt it. If he were, he would have no motive to mass
murder innocent people whore were taking part in a
dancing/yoga lesson.

I am now almost 100% certain that Alex is the terrorist
and mass murderer. Why? Because in the Swedish discussion,
his father Alphonse was mentioned. Alphonse is a black
belt karate master. It would be too strange a co-incidence
if the murderer had karate as his hobby too.

Let's face it: Alphonse is Alex's father and Alex
got the karate hobby from his father. It all adds up
quite perfectly.

But where did Alex catch the motive for terrorism
and mass murder?

br,
KK

[TT]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
I don't give a fuck about his name, this sicko must be outed
no matter what the leftist scum says. As of now, I think my
picture of this matter is getting clearer all the time. My
initial suspicions just could be spot-on!
This horrifying crime cannot be swept away like it is
just normal everyday business... No way!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/29578114/suspect-southport-knife-horror-karate-cardiff/
"Neighbours spoke of their shock, describing the parents -
a Christian “hard-working father and stay-at-home mother” -
as “very normal”.
What about Alex the son? Was he a Christian? Somehow
I doubt it. If he were, he would have no motive to mass
murder innocent people whore were taking part in a
dancing/yoga lesson.
I am now almost 100% certain that Alex is the terrorist
and mass murderer. Why? Because in the Swedish discussion,
his father Alphonse was mentioned. Alphonse is a black
belt karate master. It would be too strange a co-incidence
if the murderer had karate as his hobby too.
Let's face it: Alphonse is Alex's father and Alex
got the karate hobby from his father. It all adds up
quite perfectly.
But where did Alex catch the motive for terrorism
and mass murder?
br,
KK

The article also says:

"The 17-year-old, currently being quizzed by cops for murder and
attempted murder, was born in Cardiff in 2006 after his parents,
currently in their 40s, moved from Rwanda."

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
But where did Alex catch the motive for terrorism
and mass murder?

That question needs to be answered truthfully, but
this quote is from the flashback.org:

https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p62

==== begin quote ===============================

Troligt namn på GM:
Axel Muganwa Rudakubana

Född 2006 i Cardiff.

Pappan heter Alphonse Rudakubana
https://www.southportvisiter.co.uk/sport/other-sport/alphonse-gets-wants---after-9480939
==== end quote ===============================

I am sure Pelle as a Swede can provide a translation
for those who do not know Swedish, right?

br,
KK

[TT]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
Axel Muganwa Rudakubana

So *almost* Archibald Higgenbottoms. Good call JD.

[The Iceberg]

Post by TT

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
Axel Muganwa Rudakubana

So *almost* Archibald Higgenbottoms. Good call JD.

yeah he's as Welsh as Tom Jones! LOL

[TT]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
If/when you find out the truth, please post a follow-up to this
thread. Thanks.

I do not claim that the following page contains the truth, but
 https://www.flashback.org/t3620929p61

It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name because
he's underage, but still you demand a name.  Otherwise, in your mind,
it's a coverup.  They *do* say the suspect was born in Wales, so
obviously he's not an immigrant...

I think skriptis already refuted that argument...

What if his name is "Archibald Higgenbottoms", all would be OK in your
mind?

Very unlikely. I don't recall a single mass stabbing in Europe by
whites. Especially toward children.
Not a single gang raping either, for some reason. Paedophile rings seem
also come from certain backgrounds... drug rings too.

[TT]

It's stated that they can't legally provide the suspect's name because
he's underage

Perhaps.
However they probably could still provide more info on his ethnicity etc.

[jdeluise]

Post by TT
There has been name Ali Al-Shakati circulating in social media.
BUT the police says that...
Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and
he
remains in police custody.
A name has been shared on social media in connection with the
suspect
in the incident in Southport. This name is incorrect and we
would
urge people not to speculate on details of the incident while
the
investigation is ongoing.
This incident is not currently being treated as terror-related
and we
are not looking for anyone else in connection with it.
https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/update-on-major-incident-in-southport/
...However, the police would probably say that the person does
NOT
have immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very
likely
another immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass
stabbings
always are.

Other news reports he was born in Cardiff, Wales.

[*skriptis]

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bceed61acb1a2f9a8bc9a5c40bfeff98

[The Iceberg]

Post by jdeluise

Post by TT
There has been name Ali Al-Shakati circulating in social media.
BUT the police says that...
Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and he
remains in police custody.
A name has been shared on social media in connection with the suspect
in the incident in Southport.  This name is incorrect and we would
urge people not to speculate on details of the incident while the
investigation is ongoing.
This incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and we
are not looking for anyone else in connection with it.
https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/update-on-major-incident-in-southport/
...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT
have immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely
another immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings
always are.

Other news reports he was born in Cardiff, Wales.

to Rwandan parents, dimvit.

[Custos Custodum]

On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 22:15:04 +0100, The Iceberg

Post by The Iceberg

Post by jdeluise

Post by TT
There has been name Ali Al-Shakati circulating in social media.
BUT the police says that...
Yesterday, officers arrested a 17-year-old male from Banks and he
remains in police custody.
A name has been shared on social media in connection with the suspect
in the incident in Southport.  This name is incorrect and we would
urge people not to speculate on details of the incident while the
investigation is ongoing.
This incident is not currently being treated as terror-related and we
are not looking for anyone else in connection with it.
https://www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/july/update-on-major-incident-in-southport/
...However, the police would probably say that the person does NOT
have immigrant background if that was the case. So it's very likely
another immigrant, 1st or 2nd generation. All these mass stabbings
always are.

Other news reports he was born in Cardiff, Wales.

to Rwandan parents, dimvit.

Who are therefore far more likely to be Xtian than Muslim. Of course
it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that junior was radicalized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Rwanda

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by Custos Custodum
Who are therefore far more likely to be Xtian than Muslim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Rwanda

According to The Sun, the parents are indeed Christian.

Post by Custos Custodum
Of course it's not beyond the bounds of possibility
that junior was radicalized.

Exactly. According to my understanding, there are
two possible motives behind this sickening deed:

1) Psychosis. Axel was delusional and was insane
when killing. But this does not seem very credible
because he took a taxi and drove to the destination.
It all seems like a carefully planned and timed
attack. He must have known what was happening.

2) He is a convert to the "religion of peace".

br,
KK

[jdeluise]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by Custos Custodum
Who are therefore far more likely to be Xtian than Muslim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Rwanda

According to The Sun, the parents are indeed Christian.

Post by Custos Custodum
Of course it's not beyond the bounds of possibility
that junior was radicalized.

Exactly. According to my understanding, there are
1) Psychosis. Axel was delusional and was insane
when killing. But this does not seem very credible
because he took a taxi and drove to the destination.
It all seems like a carefully planned and timed
attack. He must have known what was happening.
2) He is a convert to the "religion of peace".

Yeah, white christians NEVER commit heinous crimes after all...
*facepalm*

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by jdeluise
Yeah, white christians NEVER commit heinous crimes after all...
*facepalm*

Christianity is no motive for a deed like this.

If Axel Muganwa Rudakubana is a Christian, why
would he become a terrorist and mass murder
children and adults? It makes no sense at all.

Yes, history shows us that some Christian
terrorists have attacked abortion clinics
in the USA, but this UK act of terrorism is
nothing like it.

br,
KK

[jdeluise]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by jdeluise
Yeah, white christians NEVER commit heinous crimes after all...
*facepalm*

Christianity is no motive for a deed like this.
If Axel Muganwa Rudakubana is a Christian, why
would he become a terrorist and mass murder
children and adults? It makes no sense at all.

People can be radicalized under any banner, or even
self-radicalize. Yes, EVEN christians in case you didn't know...

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
Yes, history shows us that some Christian
terrorists have attacked abortion clinics
in the USA, but this UK act of terrorism is
nothing like it.

How can you say what the motivation was this early? We see mass
murders in the US weekly, maybe daily sometimes. I wouldn't call
those "terrorists". But for sure there are a lot of maladjusted,
mentally ill individuals around. Put 'em in a group like a
religion, ANY religion, and it's a recipe for a problem. But we
don't even know whether that is a factor at all in this case.

You're weird.

[The Iceberg]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by jdeluise
Yeah, white christians NEVER commit heinous crimes after all...
*facepalm*

Christianity is no motive for a deed like this.
If Axel Muganwa Rudakubana is a Christian, why
would he become a terrorist and mass murder
children and adults? It makes no sense at all.

People can be radicalized under any banner, or even self-radicalize.
Yes, EVEN christians in case you didn't know...

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen
Yes, history shows us that some Christian
terrorists have attacked abortion clinics
in the USA, but this UK act of terrorism is
nothing like it.

How can you say what the motivation was this early?  We see mass murders
in the US weekly, maybe daily sometimes.  I wouldn't call those
"terrorists".  But for sure there are a lot of maladjusted, mentally ill
individuals around.  Put 'em in a group like a religion, ANY religion,
and it's a recipe for a problem.  But we don't even know whether that is
a factor at all in this case.

yes we do, oh no cos it just total coincidence that the whole of Europe
is experiencing this largely from mass imported Islamic terrorists,
bombings, stabbings, murders, rapes, grooming gangs.

Never used to happen in the UK cos immigrants were made to "assimilate"
and speak English. Then we had 10 years of glorious Labour leftists in
power who literally said it was "racist" to tell foreigners living here
in England to speak English or that they had to assimilate in any way!
that caused ghettoisation and result was the July 2007 suicide bombings
on the London tube. Thanks yet again leftists.

You're weird.

you're the one with a very weird liking for men with a sex fetish for
wearing dresses. LOLski

[TT]

Post by Kalevi Kolttonen

Post by Custos Custodum
Who are therefore far more likely to be Xtian than Muslim.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Rwanda

According to The Sun, the parents are indeed Christian.

Post by Custos Custodum
Of course it's not beyond the bounds of possibility
that junior was radicalized.

Exactly. According to my understanding, there are
1) Psychosis. Axel was delusional and was insane
when killing. But this does not seem very credible
because he took a taxi and drove to the destination.
It all seems like a carefully planned and timed
attack. He must have known what was happening.
2) He is a convert to the "religion of peace".
br,
KK

Or maybe it's just in their blood. Remember Rwandan genocide?

"The Hutu and Tutsi adhere essentially to the same religious beliefs,
which include forms of animism and Christianity."

Also, the catholic church in Rwanda apparently aided the massacre...

https://venturesafrica.com/catholic-church-rwandan-genocide/

[Kalevi Kolttonen]

Post by TT
Or maybe it's just in their blood. Remember Rwandan genocide?
"The Hutu and Tutsi adhere essentially to the same religious beliefs,
which include forms of animism and Christianity."
Also, the catholic church in Rwanda apparently aided the massacre...
https://venturesafrica.com/catholic-church-rwandan-genocide/

I really do not know. But BBC has today confirmed that the
killer is indeed Axel Muganwa Rudakubana!!! This piece of
shit has definitely been outed now!!!

br,
KK