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[*skriptis]

Robert F. Kennedy endorses Trump and explains why in this 2 minute rant against the Jews using dog whistle "neocons".

He says Trump is aware of the "neocons" too and understands it all.

[Scall5]

Post by *skriptis
http://youtu.be/4ijDYETyIts
Robert F. Kennedy endorses Trump and explains why in this 2 minute rant against the Jews using dog whistle "neocons".
He says Trump is aware of the "neocons" too and understands it all.

Didn't Trump also say he was going to release "data" regarding the JFK
assassination? But when he was president he didn't.

Trump says that he will release UFO "data" when he is president again.
Why didn't he during his first term in office?

Just wondering...

[jdeluise]

Post by Scall5

Post by *skriptis
http://youtu.be/4ijDYETyIts
Robert F. Kennedy endorses Trump and explains why in this 2
minute
rant against the Jews using dog whistle "neocons".
He says Trump is aware of the "neocons" too and understands it all.

Didn't Trump also say he was going to release "data" regarding
the JFK
assassination? But when he was president he didn't.
Trump says that he will release UFO "data" when he is president
again. Why didn't he during his first term in office?
Just wondering...

One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the "data" on the
Epstein case.

[Scall5]

Post by Scall5

Post by *skriptis
http://youtu.be/4ijDYETyIts
Robert F. Kennedy endorses Trump and explains why in this 2 minute
rant against the Jews using dog whistle "neocons".
He says Trump is aware of the "neocons" too and understands it all.

Didn't Trump also say he was going to release "data" regarding the JFK
assassination? But when he was president he didn't.
Trump says that he will release UFO "data" when he is president
again. Why didn't he during his first term in office?
Just wondering...

One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the "data" on the Epstein case.

Yeah, I would like the government to stop withholding that "data" as well.

[*skriptis]

Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the "data" on the Epstein case.

What a dumb post.

The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something to hide himself? Lol.



Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.

Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in society and revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?

So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if everyone knew about your ruling class.


But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already out there in so called "fringe sites".

[jdeluise]

Post by *skriptis

Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing
the "data" on the Epstein case.

What a dumb post.
The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something
to hide himself? Lol.

Perhaps. There is a lot of evidence they were relatively close
friends. Remember the video where he and Epstein were palling
around at a party at Mar-a-Lago?

This summer he was flying around the country in Epstein's old jet
while his was being maintained, btw.

Post by *skriptis
Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.
Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in society
and revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?
So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if
everyone knew about your ruling class.
But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already out
there in so called "fringe sites".

A hated, jailed man who was chummy with the sitting president and
may have had dirt on him mysteriously dies in jail. hmm..

Look how he dithered about releasing Epstein "data" in the Fox
News interview -

(linked
directly to the clip). Guess what, Fox CLIPPED that part out when
they aired it live, everything after "Yeah".

And a reminder, he didn't release all the JFK "data" either

https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef

What happened to his "absolute right" to do anything he wants with
any documents?!

[Sawfish]

Post by *skriptis

Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the
"data" on the Epstein case.

What a dumb post.
The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something to hide himself? Lol.

Perhaps.  There is a lot of evidence they were relatively close
friends.  Remember the video where he and Epstein were palling around at
a party at Mar-a-Lago? http://youtu.be/KLcfpU2cubo
This summer he was flying around the country in Epstein's old jet while
his was being maintained, btw.

Post by *skriptis
Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.
Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in society and
revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?
So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if everyone
knew about your ruling class.
But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already out there
in so called "fringe sites".

A hated, jailed man who was chummy with the sitting president and may
have had dirt on him mysteriously dies in jail.  hmm..
Look how he dithered about releasing Epstein "data" in the Fox News
interview - http://youtu.be/t8mKw85ZQuU (linked directly to the
clip).  Guess what, Fox CLIPPED that part out when they aired it live,
everything after "Yeah".
And a reminder, he didn't release all the JFK "data" either
https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef
What happened to his "absolute right" to do anything he wants with any
documents?!

I'm acknowledging that everything you say is possible, and I'll accept
that you say that Trump did not release the Epstein "data". You then
imply that he did this because it was damaging.

OK, he did that while he was president and had more power to suppress
damaging personal info. But he's not pres now, he's in a very nasty
campaign opposed by those who *do* have power to release this material,
and yet they have not.

To me, this implies it's either non-existent, or not very damaging. Or
possibly that their own personal ethics make them keep it hidden.

But in any event, it's not being used against him at the time it would
be most useful to his opponents.

What am I missing here?

[jdeluise]

Post by Sawfish

Post by *skriptis

Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the
"data" on the Epstein case.

What a dumb post.
The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something
to
hide himself? Lol.

Perhaps.  There is a lot of evidence they were relatively close
friends.  Remember the video where he and Epstein were palling
around at a party at Mar-a-Lago?
http://youtu.be/KLcfpU2cubo
This summer he was flying around the country in Epstein's old
jet
while his was being maintained, btw.

Post by *skriptis
Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.
Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in
society
and revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?
So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if
everyone
knew about your ruling class.
But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already
out
there in so called "fringe sites".

A hated, jailed man who was chummy with the sitting president
and
may have had dirt on him mysteriously dies in jail.  hmm..
Look how he dithered about releasing Epstein "data" in the Fox News
interview - http://youtu.be/t8mKw85ZQuU (linked directly
to
the clip).  Guess what, Fox CLIPPED that part out when they
aired it
live, everything after "Yeah".
And a reminder, he didn't release all the JFK "data" either
https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef
What happened to his "absolute right" to do anything he wants
with
any documents?!

I'm acknowledging that everything you say is possible, and I'll accept
that you say that Trump did not release the Epstein "data". You then
imply that he did this because it was damaging.
OK, he did that while he was president and had more power to
suppress
damaging personal info. But he's not pres now, he's in a very
nasty
campaign opposed by those who *do* have power to release this
material, and yet they have not.
To me, this implies it's either non-existent, or not very
damaging. Or
possibly that their own personal ethics make them keep it
hidden.
But in any event, it's not being used against him at the time it would
be most useful to his opponents.
What am I missing here?

It could be that the information is so explosive it would be
damaging to both Trump *and* powerful Dems. Thus, neither side
wants it released.

[Sawfish]

Post by Sawfish

Post by *skriptis

Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the
"data" on the Epstein case.

What a dumb post.
The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something to hide himself? Lol.

Perhaps.  There is a lot of evidence they were relatively close
friends.  Remember the video where he and Epstein were palling
around at a party at Mar-a-Lago?
http://youtu.be/KLcfpU2cubo
This summer he was flying around the country in Epstein's old jet
while his was being maintained, btw.

Post by *skriptis
Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.
Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in society
and revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?
So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if everyone
knew about your ruling class.
But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already out
there in so called "fringe sites".

A hated, jailed man who was chummy with the sitting president and
may have had dirt on him mysteriously dies in jail.  hmm..
Look how he dithered about releasing Epstein "data" in the Fox News
interview - http://youtu.be/t8mKw85ZQuU (linked directly to
the clip).  Guess what, Fox CLIPPED that part out when they aired it
live, everything after "Yeah".
And a reminder, he didn't release all the JFK "data" either
https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef
What happened to his "absolute right" to do anything he wants with
any documents?!

I'm acknowledging that everything you say is possible, and I'll accept
that you say that Trump did not release the Epstein "data". You then
imply that he did this because it was damaging.
OK, he did that while he was president and had more power to suppress
damaging personal info. But he's not pres now, he's in a very nasty
campaign opposed by those who *do* have power to release this
material, and yet they have not.
To me, this implies it's either non-existent, or not very damaging. Or
possibly that their own personal ethics make them keep it hidden.
But in any event, it's not being used against him at the time it would
be most useful to his opponents.
What am I missing here?

It could be that the information is so explosive it would be damaging to
both Trump *and* powerful Dems.  Thus, neither side wants it released.

So you think it's come to that, in the good ol' USA?

[jdeluise]

Post by Sawfish
So you think it's come to that, in the good ol' USA?

Probably since 1779.

At any rate I'm not entirely serious about any of this, but it's
fun to speculate.

[jdeluise]

Post by jdeluise

Post by Sawfish
So you think it's come to that, in the good ol' USA?

Probably since 1779.
At any rate I'm not entirely serious about any of this, but it's
fun
to speculate.

*6*

[Scall5]

Post by Sawfish

Post by *skriptis

Just wondering...One thing you'll never see, Trump releasing the
"data" on the Epstein case.

What a dumb post.
The way you phrased it, it would suggest that he has something to hide himself? Lol.

Perhaps.  There is a lot of evidence they were relatively close
friends.  Remember the video where he and Epstein were palling
around at a party at Mar-a-Lago?
http://youtu.be/KLcfpU2cubo
This summer he was flying around the country in Epstein's old jet
while his was being maintained, btw.

Post by *skriptis
Reality check, it's not something he can actually release.
Is he supposed to release it and cause major upheaval in society
and revolution and possibly even risk his own life even more?
So that's the reason, imagine what would have happened if everyone
knew about your ruling class.
But if you can read between the lines, the truth is already out
there in so called "fringe sites".

A hated, jailed man who was chummy with the sitting president and
may have had dirt on him mysteriously dies in jail.  hmm..
Look how he dithered about releasing Epstein "data" in the Fox News
interview - http://youtu.be/t8mKw85ZQuU (linked directly to
the clip).  Guess what, Fox CLIPPED that part out when they aired it
live, everything after "Yeah".
And a reminder, he didn't release all the JFK "data" either
https://apnews.com/trump-boasted-hed-open-all-jfk-files-but-now-says-he-cant-2f48d57f9ee045d98eb784d2295288ef
What happened to his "absolute right" to do anything he wants with
any documents?!

I'm acknowledging that everything you say is possible, and I'll accept
that you say that Trump did not release the Epstein "data". You then
imply that he did this because it was damaging.
OK, he did that while he was president and had more power to suppress
damaging personal info. But he's not pres now, he's in a very nasty
campaign opposed by those who *do* have power to release this
material, and yet they have not.
To me, this implies it's either non-existent, or not very damaging. Or
possibly that their own personal ethics make them keep it hidden.
But in any event, it's not being used against him at the time it would
be most useful to his opponents.
What am I missing here?

It could be that the information is so explosive it would be damaging to
both Trump *and* powerful Dems.  Thus, neither side wants it released.

Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

[jdeluise]

Post by Scall5
Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it
released"!

Yeah, no doubt. It's not an uncommon thought. But you know,
there are a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of
libertarianism out there. I also think "US libertarianism" is its
own unique form. I think I remember you saying you're a
libertarian. What makes you say that? That is, what set of
beliefs do you hold that lead you to identify with libertarians.
This isn't a trick question, I'm genuinely curious.

[Sawfish]

Post by Scall5
Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know, there are
a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of libertarianism
out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is its own unique form.  I
think I remember you saying you're a libertarian.  What makes you say
that?  That is, what set of beliefs do you hold that lead you to
identify with libertarians. This isn't a trick question, I'm genuinely
curious.

Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism would work
just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.

;^)

Now for a serious question...

Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to political
anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_anarchism

Scall, you know, or ought to know, I'm not attempting to bait you. I've
thought about the lineage of libertarianism and it seemed to me that it
may have derived from political anarchism.

To be sure, anarchism /= anarchy. Therefore, there should be no
*negative* connotation to anarchism, as there is with anarchy.

--Sawfish

[bmoore]

Post by Sawfish

Post by Scall5
Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know, there are
a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of libertarianism
out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is its own unique form.  I
think I remember you saying you're a libertarian.  What makes you say
that?  That is, what set of beliefs do you hold that lead you to
identify with libertarians. This isn't a trick question, I'm genuinely
curious.

Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism would work
just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.
;^)
Now for a serious question...
Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to political
anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_anarchism
Scall, you know, or ought to know, I'm not attempting to bait you. I've
thought about the lineage of libertarianism and it seemed to me that it
may have derived from political anarchism.

We all want to be free. But we also live in communities.

Post by Sawfish
To be sure, anarchism /= anarchy. Therefore, there should be no
*negative* connotation to anarchism, as there is with anarchy.

Wait, so this means divide anarchism by anarchy and store the result in anarchism? :-)

[jdeluise]

Post by Sawfish

Post by Scall5
Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know,
there
are a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of
libertarianism out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is
its
own unique form.  I think I remember you saying you're a
libertarian.  What makes you say that?  That is, what set of
beliefs
do you hold that lead you to identify with libertarians. This
isn't
a trick question, I'm genuinely curious.

Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism
would
work just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.
;^)
Now for a serious question...
Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to
political
anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_anarchism
Scall, you know, or ought to know, I'm not attempting to bait
you. I've thought about the lineage of libertarianism and it
seemed to
me that it may have derived from political anarchism.

I think originally libertarianism could be likened to a
decentralized form of communism. At least, that's my
understanding... the connection to anarchism being the lack of a
centralized government. Rather, society is divided into smaller
self-contained "pods" as opposed to large-scale, centralized
communism like in Russia or China.

Post by Sawfish
To be sure, anarchism /= anarchy. Therefore, there should be no
*negative* connotation to anarchism, as there is with anarchy.
--Sawfish

[Scall5]

Post by Sawfish

Post by Scall5
Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know, there
are a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of
libertarianism out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is its own
unique form.  I think I remember you saying you're a libertarian.
What makes you say that?  That is, what set of beliefs do you hold
that lead you to identify with libertarians. This isn't a trick
question, I'm genuinely curious.

Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism would work
just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.
;^)
Now for a serious question...
Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to political
anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporary_anarchism
Scall, you know, or ought to know, I'm not attempting to bait you. I've
thought about the lineage of libertarianism and it seemed to me that it
may have derived from political anarchism.
To be sure, anarchism /= anarchy.  Therefore, there should be no
*negative* connotation to anarchism, as there is with anarchy.
--Sawfish

I am Libertarian for several reasons. One, I have no confidence in the
GOP or Dems balancing the budget. Two, I believe that the power should
be in the hands of towns, counties, and states as opposed to the federal
government (I want my tax dollars being spent locally as opposed to
across the country or in other countries). Three, I value personal
freedom instead of a bureaucracy telling me how to live and endlessly
taxing me. Four, federal regulations have allowed (i.e. supported)
monopolies to exist that beat down competition and invaded our privacy.

Those are some off the top of my head.

[Scall5]

Post by Sawfish

Post by Scall5
Libertarians have long speculated that "neither side wants it released"!

Yeah, no doubt.  It's not an uncommon thought.  But you know, there
are a lot of different forms (and corruptions, I'd say) of
libertarianism out there.  I also think "US libertarianism" is its own
unique form.  I think I remember you saying you're a libertarian.
What makes you say that?  That is, what set of beliefs do you hold
that lead you to identify with libertarians. This isn't a trick
question, I'm genuinely curious.

Sometime back I came to the conclusion that US libertarianism would work
just fine...in 1870 in North Dakota.
;^)
Now for a serious question...
Do you feel that Libertarianism is related in any way to political
anarchism, such as contemporary anarchism?

No, I do not. State and local rights and laws exist in the Libertarian
platform.