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Trump Says We ‘Gotta’ Restrict the First Amendment
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Pelle Svanslös
2024-08-27 16:41:03 UTC
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On Friday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made a show of selectively exiting the
presidential race and throwing his support behind Donald Trump, hailing
the former president as a champion of free speech. Less than a week
later, Trump is already promising to crush First Amendment protections
if elected in November.

On Monday, Trump complained about pushback to a proposal to sentence
people to a year in jail for burning the American flag.
“I wanna get a law passed […] You burn an American flag, you go to jail
for one year. Gotta do it — you gotta do it,” Trump said.
“They say, ‘Sir, that’s unconstitutional.’ We’ll make it constitutional.”

People may tell Trump that jailing anyone who burns the flag is
unconstitutional because burning the flag is protected by the First
Amendment. In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. Johnson that
while the desecration of the flag may be objectionable, “If there is a
bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the
government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because
society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-restrict-first-amendment-1235088402/

Another HUGE setback for Iceberg. Trump is officially anti-1st. Not only
that but Trump proposes to make constitutional out of the
unconstitutional. That sounds a lot like burning constitutions. I always
knew Trump was one of those guys.
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TT
2024-08-27 17:02:22 UTC
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Post by Pelle Svanslös
On Friday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made a show of selectively exiting the
presidential race and throwing his support behind Donald Trump, hailing
the former president as a champion of free speech. Less than a week
later, Trump is already promising to crush First Amendment protections
if elected in November.
On Monday, Trump complained about pushback to a proposal to sentence
people to a year in jail for burning the American flag.
“I wanna get a law passed […] You burn an American flag, you go to jail
for one year. Gotta do it — you gotta do it,” Trump said.
“They say, ‘Sir, that’s unconstitutional.’ We’ll make it constitutional.”
People may tell Trump that jailing anyone who burns the flag is
unconstitutional because burning the flag is protected by the First
Amendment. In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. Johnson that
while the desecration of the flag may be objectionable, “If there is a
bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the
government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because
society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-restrict-first-amendment-1235088402/
Another HUGE setback for Iceberg. Trump is officially anti-1st. Not only
that but Trump proposes to make constitutional out of the
unconstitutional. That sounds a lot like burning constitutions. I always
knew Trump was one of those guys.
That's not about freedom of speech, just flag burning.
Dishonouring Finnish flag is also a crime.

In Europe freedom of speech is being curbed by so-called "liberals". In
England they throw people in prison for facebook posts. For acts of
violence it takes months/years to get convicted, but committing a
thought-crime on social media gets one convicted in a week. Apparently
*that* doesn't worry you.
jdeluise
2024-08-27 17:20:54 UTC
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Post by TT
Post by Pelle Svanslös
On Friday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. made a show of selectively
exiting
the presidential race and throwing his support behind Donald
Trump,
hailing the former president as a champion of free speech. Less
than
a week later, Trump is already promising to crush First
Amendment
protections if elected in November.
On Monday, Trump complained about pushback to a proposal to
sentence
people to a year in jail for burning the American flag.
“I wanna get a law passed […] You burn an American flag, you go
to
jail for one year. Gotta do it — you gotta do it,” Trump said.
“They say, ‘Sir, that’s unconstitutional.’ We’ll make it constitutional.”
People may tell Trump that jailing anyone who burns the flag is
unconstitutional because burning the flag is protected by the
First
Amendment. In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. Johnson that
while the desecration of the flag may be objectionable, “If
there is
a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that
the
government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply
because
society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-restrict-first-amendment-1235088402/
Another HUGE setback for Iceberg. Trump is officially
anti-1st. Not
only that but Trump proposes to make constitutional out of the
unconstitutional. That sounds a lot like burning
constitutions. I
always knew Trump was one of those guys.
That's not about freedom of speech, just flag burning.
Dishonouring Finnish flag is also a crime.
Well, it's not in the US.
Post by TT
In Europe freedom of speech is being curbed by so-called
"liberals". In England they throw people in prison for facebook
posts. For acts of violence it takes months/years to get
convicted,
but committing a thought-crime on social media gets one
convicted in a
week. Apparently *that* doesn't worry you.
At least in the US, both sides want to ban or criminalize things.
It's not a one side issue.

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