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So how do the Dems spin this?
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Sawfish
2024-07-14 00:30:48 UTC
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My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of Trump.
And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think that's where
they'll go.

What do you think, RSTers?
--
--Sawfish
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"The big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."

Andy, from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal contracts...
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Scall5
2024-07-14 03:26:31 UTC
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Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of Trump.
And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think that's where
they'll go.
What do you think, RSTers?
I think they will suppress any investigative information for as long as
possible. The longer the better; years, decades, centuries.

Much like the transgender shooter's manifesto and his/her/them shooting
in a religious school in Nashville. Still waiting for the official
statement on that...
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Scall5
jdeluise
2024-07-14 03:33:01 UTC
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Post by Scall5
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT
of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I
think
that's where they'll go.
What do you think, RSTers?
I think they will suppress any investigative information for as
long
as possible. The longer the better; years, decades, centuries.
Much like the transgender shooter's manifesto and his/her/them
shooting in a religious school in Nashville. Still waiting for
the
official statement on that...
As Trump once told grieving families of mass shooting victims, "we
have to get over it".
The Iceberg
2024-07-14 10:30:44 UTC
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Post by Scall5
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.
What do you think, RSTers?
I think they will suppress any investigative information for as long
as possible. The longer the better; years, decades, centuries.
Much like the transgender shooter's manifesto and his/her/them
shooting in a religious school in Nashville. Still waiting for the
official statement on that...
As Trump once told grieving families of mass shooting victims, "we have
to get over it".
oh you mean when he said "To the entire community, we love you, we pray
for you, and we ask God to heal and comfort, really, the whole
state...But we have to get over it. We have to move forward. To all the
relatives, and all the people who are devastated right now, to the point
they can't breathe, they can’t live, we are with you all the way."
jdeluise
2024-07-14 09:23:20 UTC
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Post by Scall5
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT
of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I
think
that's where they'll go.
What do you think, RSTers?
I think they will suppress any investigative information for as
long
as possible. The longer the better; years, decades, centuries.
So far I've heard he's a registered Republican and was wearing a
far-right pro-2fa shirt. I've also read he donated a few bucks to
some dem PAC.
Post by Scall5
Much like the transgender shooter's manifesto and his/her/them
shooting in a religious school in Nashville. Still waiting for
the
official statement on that...
PeteWasLucky
2024-07-14 03:57:33 UTC
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My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of Trump. And maybe this is true, but whether it is or not, I think that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?-- --Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy, from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow they
don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
their viewers.
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jdeluise
2024-07-14 09:06:16 UTC
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Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT
of Trump. And maybe this is true, but whether it is or not, I
think that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow
they
don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
The Iceberg
2024-07-14 10:41:23 UTC
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Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy, from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked relentlessly
about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his own home by a
right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium

https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968

Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying "crazy Nancy
Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Sawfish
2024-07-14 13:48:41 UTC
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Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true, but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
Looks just like SE Portland. I could drive from where I live and see
lots of this within 6 mins.
Post by The Iceberg
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying "crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
--
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"...and your little dog, too!"
--Sawfish
jdeluise
2024-07-14 14:29:56 UTC
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Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the
RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it
away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with
all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying
"crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Could be, but by the time he actually attacked his head was full
of QAnon conspiracy theories.
Sawfish
2024-07-14 15:29:00 UTC
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Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying "crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Could be, but by the time he actually attacked his head was full of
QAnon conspiracy theories.
If accurate, one way to look at it is that radical progressives, such as
is indicated by the signage outside his house, are highly suggestible,
inconsistent, and unstable.
--
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"I done created myself a monster."

--Juan Carlos Ferrero
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jdeluise
2024-07-14 15:49:00 UTC
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Post by Sawfish
Post by jdeluise
Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the
RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it
away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head
in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David
Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying
"crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Could be, but by the time he actually attacked his head was
full of
QAnon conspiracy theories.
If accurate, one way to look at it is that radical progressives,
such
as is indicated by the signage outside his house, are highly
suggestible, inconsistent, and unstable.
More likely he didn't hold any real beliefs, he probably donned
them like clothes to bring meaning to his meaningless life.
Anyone willing to attack anyone over politics has a few screws
loose, including this Crooks.
Sawfish
2024-07-14 16:37:44 UTC
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Post by Sawfish
Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying "crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Could be, but by the time he actually attacked his head was full of
QAnon conspiracy theories.
If accurate, one way to look at it is that radical progressives, such
as is indicated by the signage outside his house, are highly
suggestible, inconsistent, and unstable.
More likely he didn't hold any real beliefs, he probably donned them
like clothes to bring meaning to his meaningless life. Anyone willing
to attack anyone over politics has a few screws loose, including this
Crooks.
If the photo Ice supplied of the guy's house is any indication, he's
indistinguishable from many other such people here in Portland.  I think
it's more logically economical to think that he was an *extreme* example
of these same types I see here in PDX. And indeed, these same type did
run rampant in the summer of 2020 thru Oct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland,_Oregon

The same types also riot in 2016:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Portland,_Oregon_riots

So really, they seem at least as volatile as the Jan 6th folks.
--
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"Goodness could be found sometimes in the middle of hell."

--Charles Bukowski
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jdeluise
2024-07-14 16:44:00 UTC
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Post by Sawfish
Post by Sawfish
Post by jdeluise
Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it
away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but
somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David
Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house
with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying "crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Could be, but by the time he actually attacked his head was
full of
QAnon conspiracy theories.
If accurate, one way to look at it is that radical
progressives, such
as is indicated by the signage outside his house, are highly
suggestible, inconsistent, and unstable.
More likely he didn't hold any real beliefs, he probably donned them
like clothes to bring meaning to his meaningless life. Anyone
willing to attack anyone over politics has a few screws loose,
including this Crooks.
If the photo Ice supplied of the guy's house is any indication, he's
indistinguishable from many other such people here in Portland.
Well, that's a big IF. Iceberg has lied about me and misquoted me
and others relentlessly for years.
Post by Sawfish
  I
think it's more logically economical to think that he was an
*extreme*
example of these same types I see here in PDX. And indeed, these
same
type did run rampant in the summer of 2020 thru Oct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland,_Oregon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Portland,_Oregon_riots
So really, they seem at least as volatile as the Jan 6th folks.
Probably so. There are dangerous folks on all sides, that's for
sure. And plenty of people who "adopt" beliefs for ancillary
benefits.
Sawfish
2024-07-14 16:47:02 UTC
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Post by Sawfish
Post by Sawfish
Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it
away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying "crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Could be, but by the time he actually attacked his head was full of
QAnon conspiracy theories.
If accurate, one way to look at it is that radical progressives, such
as is indicated by the signage outside his house, are highly
suggestible, inconsistent, and unstable.
More likely he didn't hold any real beliefs, he probably donned them
like clothes to bring meaning to his meaningless life. Anyone
willing to attack anyone over politics has a few screws loose,
including this Crooks.
If the photo Ice supplied of the guy's house is any indication, he's
indistinguishable from many other such people here in Portland.
Well, that's a big IF.  Iceberg has lied about me and misquoted me and
others relentlessly for years.
Post by Sawfish
  I
think it's more logically economical to think that he was an *extreme*
example of these same types I see here in PDX. And indeed, these same
type did run rampant in the summer of 2020 thru Oct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland,_Oregon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Portland,_Oregon_riots
So really, they seem at least as volatile as the Jan 6th folks.
Probably so.  There are dangerous folks on all sides, that's for
sure.  And plenty of people who "adopt" beliefs for ancillary benefits.
On that we can agree.
--
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"Man! I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!"
--Sawfish
The Iceberg
2024-07-15 11:23:20 UTC
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Post by Sawfish
Post by Sawfish
Post by The Iceberg
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT of
Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I think
that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it
away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are talking
 about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow  they
 don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
 their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
oh yes, if you look past the gay, BLM, Antifa stuff David Depape was
definitely a right-wing nut! LOL here a pic of his house with all the
"United we stand against HATE" and LGBTQ++ bits.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgRIj72XwAAyL8o?format=jpg&name=medium
https://x.com/AbcdeZale/status/1586473198333267968
Still Trump relentlessly mocked the hammer attack by saying "crazy
Nancy Pelosi" had wrecked San Francisco.
Could be, but by the time he actually attacked his head was full of
QAnon conspiracy theories.
If accurate, one way to look at it is that radical progressives, such
as is indicated by the signage outside his house, are highly
suggestible, inconsistent, and unstable.
More likely he didn't hold any real beliefs, he probably donned them
like clothes to bring meaning to his meaningless life. Anyone
willing to attack anyone over politics has a few screws loose,
including this Crooks.
If the photo Ice supplied of the guy's house is any indication, he's
indistinguishable from many other such people here in Portland.
Well, that's a big IF.  Iceberg has lied about me and misquoted me and
others relentlessly for years.
oh you're just a bitter Fedfan who posted about rescuing some LGBTQ+++
family from Russia!
Post by Sawfish
  I
think it's more logically economical to think that he was an *extreme*
example of these same types I see here in PDX. And indeed, these same
type did run rampant in the summer of 2020 thru Oct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland,_Oregon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Portland,_Oregon_riots
So really, they seem at least as volatile as the Jan 6th folks.
Probably so.  There are dangerous folks on all sides, that's for sure.
And plenty of people who "adopt" beliefs for ancillary benefits.
the CHAZ zone anyone? are we a bit scared to mention that??
bmoore
2024-07-14 22:47:29 UTC
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Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT
of Trump. And maybe this is true, but whether it is or not, I
think that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow
they
don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
Right, amid claims that it was Paul Pelosi's gay lover. Buncha crap.

But it does seem like someone tried to assassinate Trump. It's good that the assassin failed.
TT
2024-07-15 22:26:48 UTC
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Post by bmoore
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT
of Trump. And maybe this is true, but whether it is or not, I
think that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow they
don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
Right, amid claims that it was Paul Pelosi's gay lover. Buncha crap.
But it does seem like someone tried to assassinate Trump. It's good that the assassin failed.
Well yes, I guess...
Can't start deciding elections with a rifle, there would always be a
nutjob who thinks any candidate is worth eliminating.

Then again, maybe it was a Dead Zone situation...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085407/

...Where the death of a candidate would have served greater good.

Need to watch that film again, a classic Walken performance with great
script & direction.

Also, the character in All the King's Men (1949) - Willie Stark - always
reminded me of Trump...
Recommended.
jdeluise
2024-07-15 22:36:17 UTC
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Post by TT
Post by bmoore
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the
RIGHT
of Trump. And maybe this is true, but whether it is or not, I
think that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it
away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow they
don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in the
their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
Right, amid claims that it was Paul Pelosi's gay lover. Buncha crap.
But it does seem like someone tried to assassinate Trump. It's
good
that the assassin failed.
Well yes, I guess...
Can't start deciding elections with a rifle, there would always be a
nutjob who thinks any candidate is worth eliminating.
Then again, maybe it was a Dead Zone situation...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085407/
...Where the death of a candidate would have served greater
good.
Need to watch that film again, a classic Walken performance with great
script & direction.
Also, the character in All the King's Men (1949) - Willie Stark
-
always reminded me of Trump...
Recommended.
Have you seen "Bob Roberts"? I haven't, although I remember the
cover art. It's a Tim Robbins movie about a hard-right,
grass-roots millionaire presidential candidate who (perhaps?)
fakes a failed assassination attempt to gain popularity. Here's
the summary from tvtropes:

Bob Roberts is a satirical Mockumentary about a fictional
American
political figure, and the first movie directed by Tim Robbins,
who also
wrote the screenplay and played the title character. It was
released in
1992.

Bob Roberts is a rising star of the Republican Party. On the
occasion of the campaign for the forthcoming Senate elections
(which
take place in the context of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and US
response
from 1990), a British film crew follow him as he raises support
in his
home state of Pennsylvania. Roberts is young and charismatic,
with a
populist touch which he cultivates by playing folk songs at
political
rallies taking off Bob Dylan songs with the exact opposite
messages
(even with music videos like Dylan's). His message is one of
social and
moral conservatism, based on family values, faith in God, an
overt
rejection of the heritage of the 1960s (he was raised on a
commune by
hippie parents), and very pro-business policies. Running against
an
incumbent liberal Democrat (played by Gore Vidal), he projects
an image
of plainspoken honesty and dynamism.

As the movie goes on, however, people start whispering about
Bob's
funding coming from sources that are significantly less
wholesome than
the image he's cultivating. About halfway through, he survives
an
Assassination Attempt. The results of the election, both
political and
personal, come out less rosy than expected going in.
TT
2024-07-15 22:49:14 UTC
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Post by bmoore
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT
of Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I
think that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
  about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow
  they
  don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in   the
  their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
Right, amid claims that it was Paul Pelosi's gay lover. Buncha crap.
But it does seem like someone tried to assassinate Trump. It's good
that the assassin failed.
Well yes, I guess...
Can't start deciding elections with a rifle, there would always be a
nutjob who thinks any candidate is worth eliminating.
Then again, maybe it was a Dead Zone situation...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085407/
...Where the death of a candidate would have served greater good.
Need to watch that film again, a classic Walken performance with great
script & direction.
Also, the character in All the King's Men (1949) - Willie Stark -
always reminded me of Trump...
Recommended.
Have you seen "Bob Roberts"?  I haven't, although I remember the cover
art.  It's a Tim Robbins movie about a hard-right, grass-roots
millionaire presidential candidate who (perhaps?) fakes a failed
assassination attempt to gain popularity.  Here's the summary from
I haven't seen it.
Has pretty good IMDB score too.

Sounds Trumpian...
The Iceberg
2024-07-16 08:58:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by TT
Post by bmoore
Post by jdeluise
Post by PeteWasLucky
Post by Sawfish
My guess is that the shooter will be portrayed as to the RIGHT
of Trump. And maybe this is true,  but whether it is or not, I
think that's where they'll go.What do you think, RSTers?--
--Sawfish~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"The
big print gives it to you; the small print takes it away."Andy,
from Amos 'n' Andy, on legal
contracts...~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What I am laughing about now is how the CNN & Fox News are
talking
  about how politics turned people to be extreme, but somehow
  they
  don't have any responsibility in igniting anger and hate in   the
  their viewers.
I remember the MAGAs in the House and Trump himself joked
relentlessly about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in the head in his
own home by a right-wing nutjob.
Right, amid claims that it was Paul Pelosi's gay lover. Buncha crap.
But it does seem like someone tried to assassinate Trump. It's good
that the assassin failed.
Well yes, I guess...
Can't start deciding elections with a rifle, there would always be a
nutjob who thinks any candidate is worth eliminating.
Then again, maybe it was a Dead Zone situation...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085407/
...Where the death of a candidate would have served greater good.
Need to watch that film again, a classic Walken performance with great
script & direction.
Also, the character in All the King's Men (1949) - Willie Stark -
always reminded me of Trump...
Recommended.
Have you seen "Bob Roberts"?  I haven't, although I remember the cover
art.  It's a Tim Robbins movie about a hard-right, grass-roots
millionaire presidential candidate who (perhaps?) fakes a failed
assassination attempt to gain popularity.  Here's the summary from
 Bob Roberts is a satirical Mockumentary about a fictional  American
 political figure, and the first movie directed by Tim Robbins,  who also
 wrote the screenplay and played the title character. It was  released in
 1992.
 Bob Roberts is a rising star of the Republican Party. On the
 occasion of the campaign for the forthcoming Senate elections  (which
 take place in the context of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait and US  response
 from 1990), a British film crew follow him as he raises support  in his
 home state of Pennsylvania. Roberts is young and charismatic,  with a
 populist touch which he cultivates by playing folk songs at  political
 rallies taking off Bob Dylan songs with the exact opposite  messages
 (even with music videos like Dylan's). His message is one of  social and
 moral conservatism, based on family values, faith in God, an  overt
 rejection of the heritage of the 1960s (he was raised on a  commune by
 hippie parents), and very pro-business policies. Running against  an
 incumbent liberal Democrat (played by Gore Vidal), he projects  an image
 of plainspoken honesty and dynamism.
 As the movie goes on, however, people start whispering about  Bob's
 funding coming from sources that are significantly less  wholesome than
 the image he's cultivating. About halfway through, he survives  an
 Assassination Attempt. The results of the election, both  political and
 personal, come out less rosy than expected going in.
oh yes was a good film saw it years ago, but this even better, managed
to find footage of you being interviewed yesterday :
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1813064515350851611

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