Best song ever?

Yes. It probably is.

2025-01-08 05:53:09 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it starts
to scream"...

Sawfish

2025-01-08 15:56:51 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The song
was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's brother
was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it starts
to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...

Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

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2025-01-08 16:56:25 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also born
in Norway.

But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old enough
to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to JIG IT
and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more sense. I
think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off. Clearly she sings
jig it. Lying bastards.

Sawfish

2025-01-08 17:47:08 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also born
in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old enough
to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to JIG IT
and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more sense. I
think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off. Clearly she sings
jig it. Lying bastards.

I'd be interested in comparing the semantics of the two possibilities.

If the lyrics were "old enough to kick it", what would the meaning be in
the given context (..."and old enough to rock a the bop")

vs

"old enough to jig it"?

Also,"rock a the bop" is really loose and vague the way it's written.
Basically means nothing at all in US English, however "rock-a-the-bop"
would be interpreted as an acceptable sort of mini-scat often used in
the do-wop genre.

"Who put the bop in the bop-sha-bop-sha-bop"...

What is your opinion, TT?

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2025-01-08 22:14:03 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to
JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off.
Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.

I'd be interested in comparing the semantics of the two possibilities.
If the lyrics were "old enough to kick it", what would the meaning be in
the given context (..."and old enough to rock a the bop")
vs
"old enough to jig it"?
Also,"rock a the bop" is really loose and vague the way it's written.
Basically means nothing at all in US English, however "rock-a-the-bop"
would be interpreted as an acceptable sort of mini-scat often used in
the do-wop genre.
"Who put the bop in the bop-sha-bop-sha-bop"...
What is your opinion, TT?

I'd understand "kick" in the context on dancing although not familiar
with the term really... jig seems more fitting, same context.
And I honestly hear "jig it" no matter how much I try to kick it.

Rock the bop is same thing... dancing, partying...

Sawfish

2025-01-09 00:57:52 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough
to JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off.
Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.

I'd be interested in comparing the semantics of the two possibilities.
If the lyrics were "old enough to kick it", what would the meaning be
in the given context (..."and old enough to rock a the bop")
vs
"old enough to jig it"?
Also,"rock a the bop" is really loose and vague the way it's written.
Basically means nothing at all in US English, however "rock-a-the-bop"
would be interpreted as an acceptable sort of mini-scat often used in
the do-wop genre.
"Who put the bop in the bop-sha-bop-sha-bop"...
What is your opinion, TT?

All sounds fine to me.

There's this black slang for "kickin' it" which means sorta hanging out,
socially. So "kick it" could mean, in that context, "informally killing
time with friends".

I didn't listen to the song, so I don't know.

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2025-01-09 21:11:55 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone
Norum's brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough
to JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off.
Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.

I'd be interested in comparing the semantics of the two possibilities.
If the lyrics were "old enough to kick it", what would the meaning be
in the given context (..."and old enough to rock a the bop")
vs
"old enough to jig it"?
Also,"rock a the bop" is really loose and vague the way it's written.
Basically means nothing at all in US English, however "rock-a-the-
bop" would be interpreted as an acceptable sort of mini-scat often
used in the do-wop genre.
"Who put the bop in the bop-sha-bop-sha-bop"...
What is your opinion, TT?

All sounds fine to me.
There's this black slang for "kickin' it" which means sorta hanging out,
socially. So "kick it" could mean, in that context, "informally killing
time with friends".
I didn't listen to the song, so I don't know.

The song was too long for your attention span?

jdeluise

2025-01-08 18:03:53 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of
Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone
Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was
also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old
enough to
JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes
more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me
off. Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.

I've read "He's got the whole world in his hands" is most often
thought to be "He's got the whole world in his pants".

Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.

Sawfish

2025-01-08 18:33:55 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to
JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me
off. Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.

I've read "He's got the whole world in his hands" is most often thought
to be "He's got the whole world in his pants".
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night. Pretty
good. Wonder if it could be made today.
http://youtu.be/aoEVG_KB5IM

Certainly they *look* happy enough...

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2025-01-08 22:28:37 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to
JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me
off. Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.

I've read "He's got the whole world in his hands" is most often thought
to be "He's got the whole world in his pants".
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night. Pretty
good. Wonder if it could be made today.
http://youtu.be/aoEVG_KB5IM

Aha!
There you go, "jig" *was* used bitd...

Couldn't be made today. Currently in Finland there's lots talk about a
popular Finnish board game classic from 50s called "Africa's Star"
(referring to Cullinan diamond) and how racist some think it is. The
idea is to find the diamond and take it to Tanger or Cairo.

Some claim that it's colonialism & that the images on board are racist &
"not of modern day"...

Judge by yourself:

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Sawfish

2025-01-09 01:04:24 UTC

Post by jdeluise

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

No objections then.
Love how 80s it is, and probably not heard outside of Sweden. The
song was made by one and only Joey Tempest. The singer Tone Norum's
brother was Europe's guitarist. Very cute rock chick!
Here's another "find"...
http://youtu.be/_kq4xumQh14
Wonderful lyrics. Totally misheard the line "I like a sax when it
starts to scream"...

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also
born in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old
enough to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to
JIG IT and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more
sense. I think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me
off. Clearly she sings jig it. Lying bastards.

I've read "He's got the whole world in his hands" is most often
thought to be "He's got the whole world in his pants".
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night. Pretty
good. Wonder if it could be made today.
http://youtu.be/aoEVG_KB5IM

Aha!
There you go, "jig" *was* used bitd...

Again, I didn't listen--but wow! Dandridge was quite an eyeful, huh?

For the era, she had a "modern body", meaning that she looks very sexy
by today's standard.

WRT "jig" again, not sure of the context here, but there's the sly term
"jig-a-boo" for black folk and it was probably was used pretty openly at
that time.

Post by TT
Couldn't be made today. Currently in Finland there's lots talk about a
popular Finnish board game classic from 50s called "Africa's Star"
(referring to Cullinan diamond) and how racist some think it is. The
idea is to find the diamond and take it to Tanger or Cairo.
Some claim that it's colonialism & that the images on board are racist &
"not of modern day"...
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/PELIT/40856019_04_webstore_lpjzfe.jpg?_i=AB
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/PELIT/40856019_01_webstore_rn5a93.jpg?_i=AB

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jdeluise

2025-01-09 04:23:56 UTC

Post by Sawfish
Again, I didn't listen--but wow! Dandridge was quite an eyeful, huh?

Definitely.

Post by Sawfish
For the era, she had a "modern body", meaning that she looks
very sexy
by today's standard.
WRT "jig" again, not sure of the context here, but there's the
sly
term "jig-a-boo" for black folk and it was probably was used
pretty
openly at that time.

Yeah, I was wondering about that too

bmoore

2025-01-09 14:53:26 UTC

Post by jdeluise

Post by Sawfish
Again, I didn't listen--but wow! Dandridge was quite an eyeful, huh?

Definitely.

Yeah, I was wondering about that too

You folks are correct.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jigaboo

jigaboo
noun

Etymology
jig entry 1 + -aboo (as in bugaboo)

jig 1
a: any of several lively springy dances in triple rhythm
b: music to which a jig may be danced

jdeluise

2025-01-09 04:22:58 UTC

Post by TT
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/PELIT/40856019_04_webstore_lpjzfe.jpg?_i=AB
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/PELIT/40856019_01_webstore_rn5a93.jpg?_i=AB

Another one that probably couldn't be made today, you and KK might
like this one particularly. Catchy song!

2025-01-09 21:09:43 UTC

Post by TT
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/
c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/
PELIT/40856019_04_webstore_lpjzfe.jpg?_i=AB
https://res.cloudinary.com/martinex/image/upload/
c_lpad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_620,q_auto,w_620/v1/webstore/
PELIT/40856019_01_webstore_rn5a93.jpg?_i=AB

Another one that probably couldn't be made today, you and KK might like
this one particularly. Catchy song!
http://youtu.be/yowOufFfryU

Hahaha

Custos Custodum

2025-01-10 13:27:47 UTC

Post by jdeluise
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.
http://youtu.be/aoEVG_KB5IM

One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never
can tell with those Germans):

Knowledge of German not required - the pictures say it all.

While I'm here, I might as well throw this in for no particular reason
other than that I think they are awesome and a great example of the
magic that can happen when East meets West.

ObTennis: Granddaughter and boyfriend are currently in Melbourne on
working holiday visas. Unfortunately, neither is a tennis fan so I'm
not expecting any match reports or even news of star sightings.

Sawfish

2025-01-10 17:09:43 UTC

Post by jdeluise
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.
http://youtu.be/aoEVG_KB5IM

One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never
http://youtu.be/7MBXaYsOfe8

Odd. YouTube tells me, solemnly, that "your uploader has not made this
video available in your country".

Wonder what that's all about...

Post by Custos Custodum
Knowledge of German not required - the pictures say it all.
While I'm here, I might as well throw this in for no particular reason
other than that I think they are awesome and a great example of the
magic that can happen when East meets West.
http://youtu.be/bVZiM2vEVsM
ObTennis: Granddaughter and boyfriend are currently in Melbourne on
working holiday visas. Unfortunately, neither is a tennis fan so I'm
not expecting any match reports or even news of star sightings.

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You were raised
Up in the city
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Custos Custodum

2025-01-11 00:46:01 UTC

Post by jdeluise
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.
http://youtu.be/aoEVG_KB5IM

One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never
http://youtu.be/7MBXaYsOfe8

Odd. YouTube tells me, solemnly, that "your uploader has not made this
video available in your country".
Wonder what that's all about...

The main problem for today is the subject matter, as there are no
explicit details to worry about. I see it's an "official" upload, so
maybe there are copyright issues in some countries. A VPN should solve
that for you. Alternatively, here is a different, lower resolution,
upload:

Pelle Svanslös

2025-01-11 11:07:32 UTC

Post by Custos Custodum
http://youtu.be/bVZiM2vEVsM

The banjo always wins against the guittar.

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Custos Custodum

2025-01-12 01:36:32 UTC

Post by Pelle SvanslÃ¶s

Post by Custos Custodum
http://youtu.be/bVZiM2vEVsM

The banjo always wins against the guittar.

Not only that; she's better looking than Earl Scruggs.

2025-01-12 05:05:19 UTC

Post by jdeluise
Speaking of a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.
Pretty good. Wonder if it could be made today.
http://youtu.be/aoEVG_KB5IM

One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made today (but you never
http://youtu.be/7MBXaYsOfe8
Knowledge of German not required - the pictures say it all.

English: Piano
Finnish: Piano
Swedish: Piano
Russian: Пианино (Pianino)
French: Piano
Spanish: Piano
Italian: Pianoforte
Portuguese: Piano
German: Klavier

*skriptis

2025-01-12 09:24:11 UTC

Pianoforte is "quiet and loud". How about that?

It was a name for an improvement clavier instrument (e.g. clavichord, harpsichord) that was able to, well, produce quieter and louder sounds, depending on the force you exert on keyboard, no?

Clavis, Latin, key.

Wiki

By the 17th century, the mechanisms of keyboard instruments such as the clavichord and the harpsichord were well developed. In a clavichord the strings are struck by tangents, while in a harpsichord they are mechanically plucked by quills when the performer depresses the key. Centuries of work on the mechanism of the harpsichord in particular had shown instrument builders the most effective ways to construct the case, soundboard, bridge, and mechanical action for a keyboard intended to sound strings.

The English word piano is a shortened form of the Italian pianoforte, derived from gravecembalo col piano e forte ("harpsichord with soft and loud").

Variations in volume (loudness) are produced in response to the pianist's touch (pressure on the keys): the greater the pressure, the greater the force of the hammer hitting the strings and the louder the sound produced and the stronger the attack. Invented in 1700, the fortepiano was the first keyboard instrument to allow gradations of volume and tone according to how forcefully or softly the player presses or strikes the keys, unlike the pipe organ and harpsichord.

In this case, I side with Germans.

It's a fucking keyboard instrument.
If it has keys, it's a clavier.

We also don't say "quiet" for this instrument, but either "klavir" or use home-made word, "glasovir" (soundmaker).

Bach totally sounds better on old instruments where it doesn't matter how loud the tones are. He composed his music to play with harmonies, not volume and duration. Playing Bach on modern piano is a waste of time imo.

Mozart also wrote some or even most of it for these old instruments?

Here's non piu andrai on harpsichord.

For example check how truly Mediterranean, eastern, oriental, greek and finally turkish his rondo alla Turca sounds on clavichord. Many would say this is "it".

This is clavichord which enabled some of volume, but it was negligible so it's kinda similar to harpsichord.

Non, with first modern clavier that was able to play soft and loud, fortepiano or pianoforte, I think even Beethoven sounds better on those. Logically, as in case of everyone before him, since he composed for those instruments, it's not a surprise they fit better.

The device is not as technically advanced as piano as we know if today, so the sounds or tones last shorter here, thus are being heard more "clearly".

Check moonlight sonata on this ancient true piano, or pianoforte.

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2025-01-12 11:02:33 UTC

Post by *skriptis
Pianoforte is "quiet and loud". How about that?
It was a name for an improvement clavier instrument (e.g. clavichord, harpsichord) that was able to, well, produce quieter and louder sounds, depending on the force you exert on keyboard, no?
Clavis, Latin, key.
Wiki
By the 17th century, the mechanisms of keyboard instruments such as the clavichord and the harpsichord were well developed. In a clavichord the strings are struck by tangents, while in a harpsichord they are mechanically plucked by quills when the performer depresses the key. Centuries of work on the mechanism of the harpsichord in particular had shown instrument builders the most effective ways to construct the case, soundboard, bridge, and mechanical action for a keyboard intended to sound strings.
The English word piano is a shortened form of the Italian pianoforte, derived from gravecembalo col piano e forte ("harpsichord with soft and loud").
Variations in volume (loudness) are produced in response to the pianist's touch (pressure on the keys): the greater the pressure, the greater the force of the hammer hitting the strings and the louder the sound produced and the stronger the attack. Invented in 1700, the fortepiano was the first keyboard instrument to allow gradations of volume and tone according to how forcefully or softly the player presses or strikes the keys, unlike the pipe organ and harpsichord.
In this case, I side with Germans.
It's a fucking keyboard instrument.
If it has keys, it's a clavier.
We also don't say "quiet" for this instrument, but either "klavir" or use home-made word, "glasovir" (soundmaker).
Bach totally sounds better on old instruments where it doesn't matter how loud the tones are. He composed his music to play with harmonies, not volume and duration. Playing Bach on modern piano is a waste of time imo.
http://youtu.be/A9Skj4lfhC4

This is gay.
Lots of homosexuals in European courts bitd I assume.

Post by *skriptis
For example check how truly Mediterranean, eastern, oriental, greek and finally turkish his rondo alla Turca sounds on clavichord. Many would say this is "it".
http://youtu.be/-OWOqkUTjbE

Still a bit gay but better, quite fitting for the music actually.

Post by *skriptis
Check moonlight sonata on this ancient true piano, or pianoforte.
http://youtu.be/nBLdDOqMQj0

Piano sounds better, imo.

2025-01-12 11:04:51 UTC

Post by *skriptis

Custos Custodum kirjoitti 10.1.2025 klo 15.27:> On Wed, 08 Jan 2025
a jig, youtube recommended this to me last night.>> Pretty good.
Wonder if it could be made today.>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=aoEVG_KB5IM> > One from the 80s that probably couldn't be made
today (but you never> can tell with those Germans):> > https://
http://youtu.be/7MBXaYsOfe8 > Knowledge of German not
PianoItalian: PianofortePortuguese: PianoGerman: Klavier

Pianoforte is "quiet and loud". How about that?
It was a name for an improvement clavier instrument (e.g. clavichord,
harpsichord) that was able to, well, produce quieter and louder
sounds, depending on the force you exert on keyboard, no?
Clavis, Latin, key.
Wiki
By the 17th century, the mechanisms of keyboard instruments such as
the clavichord and the harpsichord were well developed. In a
clavichord the strings are struck by tangents, while in a harpsichord
they are mechanically plucked by quills when the performer depresses
the key. Centuries of work on the mechanism of the harpsichord in
particular had shown instrument builders the most effective ways to
construct the case, soundboard, bridge, and mechanical action for a
keyboard intended to sound strings.
The English word piano is a shortened form of the Italian pianoforte,
derived from gravecembalo col piano e forte ("harpsichord with soft
and loud").
Variations in volume (loudness) are produced in response to the
pianist's touch (pressure on the keys): the greater the pressure, the
greater the force of the hammer hitting the strings and the louder the
sound produced and the stronger the attack. Invented in 1700, the
fortepiano was the first keyboard instrument to allow gradations of
volume and tone according to how forcefully or softly the player
presses or strikes the keys, unlike the pipe organ and harpsichord.
In this case, I side with Germans.
It's a fucking keyboard instrument.
If it has keys, it's a clavier.
We also don't say "quiet" for this instrument, but either "klavir" or
use home-made word, "glasovir" (soundmaker).
Bach totally sounds better on old instruments where it doesn't matter
how loud the tones are. He composed his music to play with harmonies,
not volume and duration. Playing Bach on modern piano is a waste of
time imo.
http://youtu.be/A9Skj4lfhC4

This is gay.
Lots of homosexuals in European courts bitd I assume.

Post by *skriptis
For example check how truly Mediterranean, eastern, oriental, greek
and finally turkish his rondo alla Turca sounds on clavichord. Many
would say this is "it".
http://youtu.be/-OWOqkUTjbE

Still a bit gay but better, quite fitting for the music actually.

Post by *skriptis
Check moonlight sonata on this ancient true piano, or pianoforte.
http://youtu.be/nBLdDOqMQj0

Piano sounds better, imo.

...Modern piano.

Pelle Svanslös

2025-01-12 12:42:49 UTC

The hours you have to put in trying to teach the fingers of your right
hand to plonk the strings of a guittar would be well replaced by
inventing something similar. Trying to do it yourself is like spending
hours bench pressing every day. Who would do a thing like that.

Custos Custodum

2025-01-10 02:42:28 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also born
in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old enough
to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to JIG IT
and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more sense. I
think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off. Clearly she sings
jig it. Lying bastards.

Well you and the internet are all wrong. I don't claim any great
proficiency as a lip reader, but it looks very much to me that she's
singing "I'm old enough to chicken". Digging deeper it appears that,
according to the OED, there was a dance called "The Chicken" around
1957. (Cf. Little Eva's "Turkey Trot", ~1963)

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/chicken_n?tl=true

You'll have to scroll down to section III.14.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-)

Custos Custodum

2025-01-10 12:06:09 UTC

Post by TT
Yes. It probably is.
http://youtu.be/NYgTzK-I9ig

Ahhh. I see...
Oh, wait. Maybe I should have said Aha.

Aha!
...fitting as that's a Norwegian 80s band, and Tone Norum was also born
in Norway.
But back to Brenda Lee's lyrics...
Entire internet thinks she sings "I'm old enough to kick and old enough
to rock a the bop" ... yet I keep on hearing "I'm old enough to JIG IT
and old enough to rock at the bop..." Which imo makes more sense. I
think it's a internet-wide conspiracy to throw me off. Clearly she sings
jig it. Lying bastards.

Well you and the internet are all wrong. I don't claim any great
proficiency as a lip reader, but it looks very much to me that she's
singing "I'm old enough to chicken". Digging deeper it appears that,
according to the OED, there was a dance called "The Chicken" around
1957. (Cf. Little Eva's "Turkey Trot", ~1963)
https://www.oed.com/dictionary/chicken_n?tl=true
You'll have to scroll down to section III.14.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it :-)

Here y'go: "Do the Chicken" by Billy "The Kid" Emerson.

2025-01-12 05:07:02 UTC