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Pelle Svanslös
2024-11-12 16:52:14 UTC
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Australia's government says it will introduce "world-leading"
legislation to ban children under 16 from social media.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said the proposed laws, to be tabled in
parliament next week, were aimed at mitigating the "harm" social media
was inflicting on Australian children.

"This one is for the mums and dads... They, like me, are worried sick
about the safety of our kids online. I want Australian families to know
that the government has your back," he said.

While many of the details are yet to be debated, the government said the
ban would apply to young people already on social media.

There will be no exemptions on the age limit for children who have
consent from their parents. The government says that the onus would be
on social media platforms to show they are taking reasonable steps to
prevent access.

Albanese said there would be no penalties for users, and that it would
be up to Australia's online regulator - the eSafety Commissioner - to
enforce the laws.

The legislation would come into force 12 months after it passes and be
subject to a review after it's in place.

One of Australia's largest advocacy groups for child rights has
criticised the proposed ban as "too blunt an instrument".

But other grassroots campaigners have lobbied Australia's government for
the laws, saying bans are needed to protect children from harmful
content, misinformation, bullying and other social pressures.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzd62g1r3o

I think this is a very good idea. I would maybe raise it to 18 so we can
have an extra two years to prepare for what's coming.
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"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
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Kalevi Kolttonen
2024-11-12 18:16:53 UTC
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I think this is a very good idea. I would maybe raise it to 18 so we can
have an extra two years to prepare for what's coming.
Limits like this are totally ridiculous. I just told
my younger friends tonight how free we had it in the 1980s.

Yes, there were K18 limits ("Kielletty alle 18-vuotiailta")
, "Forbidden under 18 years of age", VHS videos and films in
the movie theaters, but nobody gave a fuck about those limits!

In other words, as 12 year old kids, we could rent absolutely
all K18 VHS videos and we could enter movie theaters to see
K18 films.

The only requirement was that you had the money to rent a
VHS tape and money to buy a ticket to the movie theatre.

We should abolish all limits...Nowadays they even have K18
for certain computer games! That is so stupid!

br,
KK
Pelle Svanslös
2024-11-12 21:52:41 UTC
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I think this is a very good idea. I would maybe raise it to 18 so we can
have an extra two years to prepare for what's coming.
Limits like this are totally ridiculous. I just told
my younger friends tonight how free we had it in the 1980s.
Yes, there were K18 limits ("Kielletty alle 18-vuotiailta")
, "Forbidden under 18 years of age", VHS videos and films in
the movie theaters, but nobody gave a fuck about those limits!
In other words, as 12 year old kids, we could rent absolutely
all K18 VHS videos and we could enter movie theaters to see
K18 films.
The only requirement was that you had the money to rent a
VHS tape and money to buy a ticket to the movie theatre.
We should abolish all limits...Nowadays they even have K18
for certain computer games! That is so stupid!
I don't know whether you're a God's creation or somebody else's. If the
latter, that somebody is doing a fucking incredible job.
--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-- Traditional
Kalevi Kolttonen
2024-11-12 22:32:28 UTC
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I don't know whether you're a God's creation
or somebody else's. If the latter, that
somebody is doing a fucking incredible job.
Only losers want to create unnecessary
rules and limitations for other people.

This Australian law is supposed to "protect
children". Hahah! You do not protect children
by denying them access to parts of reality.

Instead, it is the responsibility of parents
to provide proper guidance for their kids. The
"protection" should come via education and
discussions, not imposing stupid age limits.

When we speak of movies and computer games, if
you are so lame that you cannot stand horror,
action and suspense, then go watch Mickey Mouse
movies instead. But avoid the early stuff, it
might get too suspenseful!

br,
KK
jdeluise
2024-11-13 05:16:52 UTC
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I don't know whether you're a God's creation
or somebody else's. If the latter, that
somebody is doing a fucking incredible job.
Only losers want to create unnecessary
rules and limitations for other people.
This Australian law is supposed to "protect
children". Hahah! You do not protect children
by denying them access to parts of reality.
Instead, it is the responsibility of parents
to provide proper guidance for their kids. The
"protection" should come via education and
discussions, not imposing stupid age limits.
When we speak of movies and computer games, if
you are so lame that you cannot stand horror,
action and suspense, then go watch Mickey Mouse
movies instead. But avoid the early stuff, it
might get too suspenseful!
br,
KK
Australia is a nanny state.

Anyway, it's a pointless system since there is nearly unfettered
access to anything via the internet.
Whisper
2024-11-13 08:55:29 UTC
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I don't know whether you're a God's creation
or somebody else's. If the latter, that
somebody is doing a fucking incredible job.
Only losers want to create unnecessary
rules and limitations for other people.
This Australian law is supposed to "protect
children". Hahah! You do not protect children
by denying them access to parts of reality.
Instead, it is the responsibility of parents
to provide proper guidance for their kids. The
"protection" should come via education and
discussions, not imposing stupid age limits.
When we speak of movies and computer games, if
you are so lame that you cannot stand horror,
action and suspense, then go watch Mickey Mouse
movies instead. But avoid the early stuff, it
might get too suspenseful!
br,
KK
Australia is a nanny state.
Anyway, it's a pointless system since there is nearly unfettered access
to anything via the internet.
Agreed on both points. Legally we can't even change a light fitting,
has to be a qualified electrician.

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