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Another try: An article on the final
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Pelle Svanslös
2024-07-16 16:12:55 UTC
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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5637349/2024/07/15/spain-england-euro-2024-tactics/

The long and short of it is that England has twice ran into the wall of
Mediterranean football. The Foggy Island football that England once
played is thankfully gone. The English team is much more Continental
now. But in some ways England still plays old fashioned football. Maybe
Southgate should be sacked after all.
--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-- Traditional
Custos Custodum
2024-07-16 21:51:31 UTC
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Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5637349/2024/07/15/spain-england-euro-2024-tactics/
The long and short of it is that England has twice ran into the wall of
Mediterranean football. The Foggy Island football that England once
played is thankfully gone. The English team is much more Continental
now. But in some ways England still plays old fashioned football. Maybe
Southgate should be sacked after all.

The Iceberg
2024-07-17 09:42:10 UTC
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Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5637349/2024/07/15/spain-england-euro-2024-tactics/
The long and short of it is that England has twice ran into the wall of
Mediterranean football. The Foggy Island football that England once
played is thankfully gone. The English team is much more Continental
now. But in some ways England still plays old fashioned football. Maybe
Southgate should be sacked after all.
http://youtu.be/y4CXY6TVBMc
amazing, Pelle really need lots of help not just with learning about the
basics of tennis but also football. "England is now more Mediterranean
and Continental style" HAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHHA AHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA it like he
never even watched a single England match...even better Southgate, the
guy who took England to the best results since when, we, ENGLAND WON THE
WORLD CUP IN 1966, should be sacked LOL if only Pelle would tell how his
own country do in football, maybe could help him in this area.
Pelle Svanslös
2024-07-17 19:44:15 UTC
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Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5637349/2024/07/15/spain-england-euro-2024-tactics/
The long and short of it is that England has twice ran into the wall of
Mediterranean football. The Foggy Island football that England once
played is thankfully gone. The English team is much more Continental
now. But in some ways England still plays old fashioned football. Maybe
Southgate should be sacked after all.
http://youtu.be/y4CXY6TVBMc
amazing, Pelle really need lots of help not just with learning about the
basics of tennis but also football.
That is why I come to RST.
Post by The Iceberg
"England is now more Mediterranean
and Continental style" HAHAHAHAH AHAHAHHAHHA AHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
Lol.
Post by The Iceberg
it like he
never even watched a single England match...
Maybe not. But these pundits have.

https://www.eurosport.com/football/champions-league/2022-2023/pep-guardiola-has-transformed-english-football-from-backwards-to-technical-say-bt-sport-pundits_sto9211601/story.shtml
Post by The Iceberg
even better Southgate, the
guy who took England to the best results since when, we, ENGLAND WON THE
WORLD CUP IN 1966, should be sacked LOL
In the end, he sacked himself.
--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-- Traditional
The Iceberg
2024-07-19 09:32:02 UTC
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Post by The Iceberg
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5637349/2024/07/15/spain-england-euro-2024-tactics/
The long and short of it is that England has twice ran into the wall of
Mediterranean football. The Foggy Island football that England once
played is thankfully gone. The English team is much more Continental
now. But in some ways England still plays old fashioned football. Maybe
Southgate should be sacked after all.
http://youtu.be/y4CXY6TVBMc
amazing, Pelle really need lots of help not just with learning about
the basics of tennis but also football.
That is why I come to RST.
Post by The Iceberg
"England is now more Mediterranean and Continental style" HAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHHAHHA AHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
Lol.
Post by The Iceberg
it like he never even watched a single England match...
Maybe not. But these pundits have.
what do you mean maybe not? Good grief, just know WE, ENGLAND, WON THE
WORLD CUP IN 1966, dimvit.
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.eurosport.com/football/champions-league/2022-2023/pep-guardiola-has-transformed-english-football-from-backwards-to-technical-say-bt-sport-pundits_sto9211601/story.shtml
duh Guardiola is Man City manager not England manager, he's had hardly
any impact, he only been there since about 2015 too. That article is
like saying Sir Alex Fergusson who won WAY MORE TITLES and was way more
dominant than Guardiola massively influenced England's level/style in
the early 2000's like when they beat Germany 5-1! yeah let's credit all
England results and the whole style of football until 2020 to
Fergusson's Man Utd impact.

Perhaps email Raja for some help on football, didn't always agree but he
had genuine football knowledge/opinions, maybe he can explain the rules
and good team to watch to begin with or maybe contact Max he was a real
expert.
Post by Pelle Svanslös
Post by The Iceberg
even better Southgate, the guy who took England to the best results
since when, we, ENGLAND WON THE WORLD CUP IN 1966, should be sacked LOL
In the end, he sacked himself.
yes cos he didn't really want to do the Euros in the first place. The
only real mistake he ever made was going woke in the last Euro final
penalty shoot out, which was a shame.
Pelle Svanslös
2024-07-20 17:00:58 UTC
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Post by Pelle Svanslös
Post by The Iceberg
Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5637349/2024/07/15/spain-england-euro-2024-tactics/
The long and short of it is that England has twice ran into the wall of
Mediterranean football. The Foggy Island football that England once
played is thankfully gone. The English team is much more Continental
now. But in some ways England still plays old fashioned football. Maybe
Southgate should be sacked after all.
http://youtu.be/y4CXY6TVBMc
amazing, Pelle really need lots of help not just with learning about
the basics of tennis but also football.
That is why I come to RST.
Post by The Iceberg
"England is now more Mediterranean and Continental style" HAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHHAHHA AHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
Lol.
Post by The Iceberg
it like he never even watched a single England match...
Maybe not. But these pundits have.
what do you mean maybe not?
Lol.

It means:

"Maybe I haven't, maybe I have. But others have noticed going ons too".
Post by The Iceberg
Good grief, just know WE, ENGLAND, WON THE
WORLD CUP IN 1966, dimvit.
Wasn't that the one VAR would have taken away from you.
Post by The Iceberg
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.eurosport.com/football/champions-league/2022-2023/pep-guardiola-has-transformed-english-football-from-backwards-to-technical-say-bt-sport-pundits_sto9211601/story.shtml
duh Guardiola is Man City manager not England manager, he's had hardly
any impact, he only been there since about 2015 too.
I actually was a bit skeptical about the mono-causal explanation myself.
But the point is: what I say is noted by others too. What the pundits
pundit, is really irrelevant.
Post by The Iceberg
That article is
like saying Sir Alex Fergusson who won WAY MORE TITLES and was way more
dominant than Guardiola massively influenced England's level/style in
the early 2000's like when they beat Germany 5-1! yeah let's credit all
England results and the whole style of football until 2020 to
Fergusson's Man Utd impact.
Perhaps email Raja for some help on football, didn't always agree but he
had genuine football knowledge/opinions, maybe he can explain the rules
and good team to watch to begin with or maybe contact Max he was a real
expert.
Post by Pelle Svanslös
Post by The Iceberg
even better Southgate, the guy who took England to the best results
since when, we, ENGLAND WON THE WORLD CUP IN 1966, should be sacked LOL
In the end, he sacked himself.
yes cos he didn't really want to do the Euros in the first place. The
only real mistake he ever made was going woke in the last Euro final
penalty shoot out, which was a shame.
Oh, he was criticised all through the champs for the way England played.
The worst hounds were your own press. Some of the criticism was well
placed too. Read the article I posted about the final, for example.
--
"And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair"
-- Traditional
The Iceberg
2024-07-21 09:56:41 UTC
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Post by Custos Custodum
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5637349/2024/07/15/spain-england-euro-2024-tactics/
The long and short of it is that England has twice ran into the wall of
Mediterranean football. The Foggy Island football that England once
played is thankfully gone. The English team is much more Continental
now. But in some ways England still plays old fashioned football. Maybe
Southgate should be sacked after all.
http://youtu.be/y4CXY6TVBMc
amazing, Pelle really need lots of help not just with learning about
the basics of tennis but also football.
That is why I come to RST.
Post by The Iceberg
"England is now more Mediterranean and Continental style" HAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHHAHHA AHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA
Lol.
Post by The Iceberg
it like he never even watched a single England match...
Maybe not. But these pundits have.
what do you mean maybe not?
Lol.
"Maybe I haven't, maybe I have. But others have noticed going ons too".
Post by The Iceberg
Good grief, just know WE, ENGLAND, WON THE WORLD CUP IN 1966, dimvit.
Wasn't that the one VAR would have taken away from you.
oh you mean that fake study based on 1966 film LOL fact is if VAR had
existed we would've just scored another goal and so ENGLAND STILL WON
THE 1966 WORLD CUP anyway. We were simply the better side.

The final you should be much more concerned about, but sadly you've
never heard of cos you have zero football knowledge, is the 1974 final
which they should void cos Holland was robbed cos the ref admitted
afterwards that he wanted Germany to win!
Post by Pelle Svanslös
Post by The Iceberg
Post by Pelle Svanslös
https://www.eurosport.com/football/champions-league/2022-2023/pep-guardiola-has-transformed-english-football-from-backwards-to-technical-say-bt-sport-pundits_sto9211601/story.shtml
duh Guardiola is Man City manager not England manager, he's had hardly
any impact, he only been there since about 2015 too.
I actually was a bit skeptical about the mono-causal explanation myself.
of course you were that's why you've been whinging on about
Meditteranean style football for 2 years now LOL
Post by Pelle Svanslös
But the point is: what I say is noted by others too. What the pundits
pundit, is really irrelevant.
you just copy others, that's not others taking notice of you, the
diference is you really don't know what you're talking about. Why not
re-read what you actually wrote? it most amusing. Am tempted to email
Raja and Max myself, it would be most funny to hear what they say about it.
Post by Pelle Svanslös
Post by The Iceberg
That article is like saying Sir Alex Fergusson who won WAY MORE TITLES
and was way more dominant than Guardiola massively influenced
England's level/style in the early 2000's like when they beat Germany
5-1! yeah let's credit all England results and the whole style of
football until 2020 to Fergusson's Man Utd impact.
Perhaps email Raja for some help on football, didn't always agree but
he had genuine football knowledge/opinions, maybe he can explain the
rules and good team to watch to begin with or maybe contact Max he was
a real expert.
Post by Pelle Svanslös
Post by The Iceberg
even better Southgate, the guy who took England to the best results
since when, we, ENGLAND WON THE WORLD CUP IN 1966, should be sacked LOL
In the end, he sacked himself.
yes cos he didn't really want to do the Euros in the first place. The
only real mistake he ever made was going woke in the last Euro final
penalty shoot out, which was a shame.
Oh, he was criticised all through the champs for the way England played.
The worst hounds were your own press. Some of the criticism was well
placed too. Read the article I posted about the final, for example.
yes the MSM are the worst! cos like you, they don't want England to win.
The criticism wasn't well place cos he won the required games and got to
the final not ONCE but TWICE, dimvit and he only missed on the World Cup
final cos we were a bit unlucky vs France. What you're saying is Ferrero
should be sacked cos Alcaraz lost the 3rd set this year against Tiafoe LOL
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